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Re: Sarah Barden
« Reply #27 on: Friday 15 May 20 22:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Matt

Think we need to look further for Jane Gilham as I've found these burials

Jane Gilham buried 5 Sep 1671 Fletching. Dau. of George
Jane Gilham buried 13 Feb 1667 Fletching. Dau. of John the younger.

Are you having any luck finding PR's/ BT's for Maresfield bar what's on the link I sent. I know there are Bardens there (found through googling)

Off to look for Jane G

Claire

Hi Claire

Just wondering if you've had any luck in locating Jane G yet? I have been working on the Paiges and Homewoods and trying to find Wills but so far I've had no luck.

Let me know if you have any luck with them.

Best Wishes
Matt

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Re: Sarah Barden
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 16 May 20 11:59 BST (UK) »
Just wondering if you've had any luck in locating Jane G yet?

Hi Matt
Butting in here, sorry ;D

There is a baptism indexed on FamilySearch at Fletching, 12 Sep 1680
William son of William + Jane Gillam
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBV1-GQN

Not sure whereabouts in the parish register, the one I am looking at is not in a great state, something seems to have eaten part of it.

This marriage?
7 Feb 1677/8, West Hoathly
William Gillham and Jane Rofey
Image here, right side page
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRPS-3YP

Marriage was by licence (Lewes), dated 2 Feb, both of Fletching. She is Joan Rophie (Rophe) on this, details here
https://archive.org/details/calendarofsussex00chicuoft/page/46/mode/2up

There is a Lewes will, 1698/9, William Gillham, husbandman, of Fletching
https://www.thekeep.info/collections/getrecord/GB179_PBT_1_1_43_136

We can see it on FamilySearch, either here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-69P7-RSZ?i=24&cat=685691

or here (we can download it from this link) - but I will delete this note later  ;D
https://www.familysearch.org/records/images/image-details?dgsNumbers=4427675&rmsId=TH-267-11753-150405-74&imageIndex=24&singleView=true

He has daughter Jane Gillham, son William Gillham, wife Jane

Can we find that baptism of daughter Jane, possibly in Fletching?
John

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Re: Sarah Barden
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 16 May 20 12:10 BST (UK) »
Searching with the spelling Gilliam brought up the following, which although not a match may be worth considering given that the surname may have been transcribed wrong:

Jane William christened 13 November 1678 dau of William.

Well done, Matt, you got her!
We can see the Fletching BT here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYQ8-98?i=129&cat=583952

And it says
Bapt Jane ye daughter of William Gilham & of Jane his wife

We can also see it here ;)
https://www.familysearch.org/records/images/image-details?dgsNumbers=4428287&rmsId=TH-266-11614-7619-83&imageIndex=129&singleView=true


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Re: Sarah Barden
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 16 May 20 12:14 BST (UK) »
Brilliant finds  :)

Claire
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Re: Sarah Barden
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 16 May 20 12:22 BST (UK) »
Ah thanks, Claire.
Matt actually had Jane - in a way!
But your own find of Sarah Barden/Page was the most brilliant of all :)
John

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Re: Sarah Barden
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 16 May 20 18:46 BST (UK) »
Just wondering if you've had any luck in locating Jane G yet?

Hi Matt
Butting in here, sorry ;D

There is a baptism indexed on FamilySearch at Fletching, 12 Sep 1680
William son of William + Jane Gillam
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBV1-GQN

Not sure whereabouts in the parish register, the one I am looking at is not in a great state, something seems to have eaten part of it.

This marriage?
7 Feb 1677/8, West Hoathly
William Gillham and Jane Rofey
Image here, right side page
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRPS-3YP

Marriage was by licence (Lewes), dated 2 Feb, both of Fletching. She is Joan Rophie (Rophe) on this, details here
https://archive.org/details/calendarofsussex00chicuoft/page/46/mode/2up

There is a Lewes will, 1698/9, William Gillham, husbandman, of Fletching
https://www.thekeep.info/collections/getrecord/GB179_PBT_1_1_43_136

We can see it on FamilySearch, either here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-69P7-RSZ?i=24&cat=685691

or here (we can download it from this link) - but I will delete this note later  ;D
https://www.familysearch.org/records/images/image-details?dgsNumbers=4427675&rmsId=TH-267-11753-150405-74&imageIndex=24&singleView=true

He has daughter Jane Gillham, son William Gillham, wife Jane

Can we find that baptism of daughter Jane, possibly in Fletching?
John

Hi John

No need to apologise at all! The more information anyone can shed on these people the better, all help is appreciated.

So do you think that the William christened in 1680 is the brother of the Jane Gilham I found christened in November 1678? It would make sense to me.

Thanks for the Will by the way. I couldn't download it, but I'll download a copy when I [eventually] get to the National Archives next.

Definitely looks like we've found my Jane and her family to me.

Anyhow I look forward to your next posting and suggestions.

Best Wishes
Matt

PS The identification of "Sarah Barden" [or Bardin] as "Sarah Page" was definitely brilliant. I now have to remember to put her on my tree as "Sarah Page" with a note saying [alias Sarah Bardin].

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Re: Sarah Barden
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 16 May 20 19:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Matt
It's just the one Jane, baptized in Fletching in 1678, not long after that West Hoathly marriage.
Then a brother William in 1680 (though haven't found the image)

And the will of William of Fletching in 1699 names all three, his wife Jane, son William, daughter Jane. All very neat.

There is a probate inventory, William Holmewood of Fletching, 1734
https://www.thekeep.info/collections/getrecord/GB179_PBT_1_10_2546

Appraisers Richard Page, William Gillham (familiar names!)
Could William be Jane's brother perhaps?
John

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Re: Sarah Barden
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 16 May 20 19:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Matt
It's just the one Jane, baptized in Fletching in 1678, not long after that West Hoathly marriage.
Then a brother William in 1680 (though haven't found the image)

And the will of William of Fletching in 1699 names all three, his wife Jane, son William, daughter Jane. All very neat.

There is a probate inventory, William Holmewood of Fletching, 1734
https://www.thekeep.info/collections/getrecord/GB179_PBT_1_10_2546

Appraisers Richard Page, William Gillham (familiar names!)
Could William be Jane's brother perhaps?
John

Hi John

Yes sorry I realised that straight after I posted my reply lol! I've revised my post now so the new one is above this.

Many thanks for the leads. I'm off to do some more digging into these now.

Matt

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Re: Sarah Barden
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 16 May 20 23:32 BST (UK) »
Hi John

I've just been through those bits you sent me and I think I have found more on both William Gillam/Gilham and Jane Rophe.

I think this is probably the William who married Jane

William Gillam son of John Gillam - christened 21 December 1641 at Fletching

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBV1-ZQK

This William had siblings including a Jane Gillam christened in 1644 at Rotherfield.

It looks like John Gillam married Alice [Alce] Staplehurst in Fletching in May 1636

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK4N-Z6T

That marriage makes sense as the first child I've found for John Gillam in Fletching is a son named Thomas christened in June 1637

I think John may have been christened in Rotherfield on 26 March 1609 the son of Thomas Gillam. This would certainly make sense if he named his first son after his father.

There is also a John Gillam christened in West Hoathly in 1622 but as he'd only be 14 in 1636 I think he is less likely to be William's father.

What do you think?

Next up info on the Rophes!