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Thomas Illman
« on: Wednesday 08 April 20 03:02 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I知 a new member and need some help to trace my ancestors from Sussex.

I知 looking for the ancestors of Thomas Illman and Elizabeth Barnard who married in West Grinstead in 1723. There痴 an Elizabeth Barnard baptised 1692 in West Grinstead daughter of William and Jane but I知 not sure if she is the one I知 looking for.

Can someone help me with this couple ?

greetings

Eliza.

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Re: Thomas Illman
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 08:50 BST (UK) »
Hi
Welcome to Rootschat.
There is a burial of a William Barnard at West Grinstead, 23 April 1731
Parish register on FamilySearch. Is in Latin, so Gulielmus here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6X1S-P29

BT in English
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-69C9-QJY?i=887&cat=581063

Chichester Consistory Court Will, proved 24 August 1731
William Barnard the Elder, of West Grinstead, Husbandman.
He mentions his daughter Elizabeth Illman, of this parish.
William's wife is Jane.

The will is on FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-X4MS-KVZ?i=143&cat=1022203

John

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Re: Thomas Illman
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 09 April 20 21:29 BST (UK) »
Hell John,

Wow Thank you, very interesting!

Is there a possible marriage for William Barnard and Jane in the area ? And maybe a possible baptism for the parents

greetings

Eliza


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Re: Thomas Illman
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 April 20 11:00 BST (UK) »
St George, West Grinstead

Burial;
JANE Barnard 27 Feb 1734/35, Widow, no age given

William/Jane Bapt 2 Sons named THOMAS;
23 Nov 1697, birth 04 Nov 1697, cant find a burial
14 Nov 1700
Other children;
JANE 16 Sep 1690
ELIZABETH 05 Jul 1692 you have
WILLIAM 17 Oct 1693
Name as Bernard/Barnard

Marriage same Church 22 Oct 1689
William BERNARD to Jane HILLS

All above on FreeREG

Trish :)
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Re: Thomas Illman
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 April 20 11:12 BST (UK) »
William Jnr 1693 married Susan CHATE 21 Apr 1717 Henfield, and then had children in West Grinstead with her, noted as of WG on Marriage.

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Re: Thomas Illman
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 April 20 15:44 BST (UK) »
Thank you Trish, Great work! :)

I知 just working with Familysearch at the moment but FreeReg is also a great site.

Are there possible baptism for a William Bernard and a Jane Hills in the area?

I know many descendants of the Illman family but  tracing the family of the wives is difficult I have not yet been able to find out more about them

Eliza

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Re: Thomas Illman
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 April 20 09:05 BST (UK) »
Nothing obvious for Jane Hills I can find Eliza.

You are incredibly lucky to get back to themid/ late 1600's with your Family and that may be as far as you can go.

Trish :)
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Re: Thomas Illman
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 12 April 20 09:55 BST (UK) »
St George, West Grinstead
William/Jane Bapt 2 Sons named THOMAS

A possibility might be at nearby Bolney
William Barnard, son of Thomas (Thomas is named first in the PR)
baptized 5 May 1662
born 1st April
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3V5-QLJ

Supposed to be a brother Peter who may have married in West Grinstead in 1685

EDIT
Here they are in a transcript, The parish registers of Bolney, Sussex. 1541-1812
https://archive.org/details/parishregisterso15bolnuoft/page/n93/mode/2up

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Re: Thomas Illman
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 12 April 20 16:11 BST (UK) »
Thank you again Trish and Jonw54 :)

Yes, William Bernard with father Thomas of Bolney is a good possibility I'll take a closer look at the family ;)