High Frith near Holker Cumbria

[clancam37]

Searching for a possible John Walker born about 1784 who may have been associated with an early 17th century property named "High Frith".  Searching Google I found this property mentioned in Cumbria.  Cannot find Cumbria in many County lists -- has it another name?
High Frith is a property at Grange over Sands near Holker.  Perhaps Holker was not within the borders of Cumbria in the early 17th century.
Can sks please help me.
clancam37

[djm297]

Cumbria was formed in 1974  from  of the old counties of Cumberland &  Westmoreland with parts of Lancashire and W Yorkshire . I believe that Grange- over -Sands & Holker were in Westmoreland.

djm297

[guest189040]

Cumbria only came into existence in 1974 as Djm writes

Cumberland was north of what is now Cumbria.

Barrow and Ulverstone were in Lancashire and it was called Furness, all administered out of the County town which was Preston.

Westmoreland’s County town was Appleby but it became Kendal in 1889 which is where archive records will more than likely be kept.

BTW

Holker Hall is the ancestral home of the Preston, Cavendish and Lowther families.  Hence if you find any of these names you may have hit the bullseye.

[genjen]

In fact, historically, Appleby was our County Town.

The Records Office is in Kendal County Hall, which was built in the late 1880s.

Although our postal addresses have been in Cumbria since the 1970s, I think lots of us would still say we live in Westmorland.

Jen ( in Kendal)

[clancam37]

Hi djm297,
Many thanks for your information.
I will search through Westmoreland records now.
Keep safe.
Regards
clancam37

Cumbria was formed in 1974  from  of the old counties of Cumberland &  Westmoreland with parts of Lancashire and W Yorkshire . I believe that Grange- over -Sands & Holker were in Westmoreland.

djm297

[clancam37]

Hi Colin,
Many thanks for your input.
I am searching for a John Walker born about 1784 who came to Tasmania, Australia early 1800s. Receiving a large land grant from the Colonial Secretary he named the property "High Frith" hopefully he had some association with a similar estate in England and hence a clue to his identity.  It is a long shot -- stranger things have happened.
To all in Britain our condolences for the losses due to the covid19 may it soon pass.
KInd regards
clancam37
 

Cumbria only came into existence in 1974 as Djm writes

Cumberland was north of what is now Cumbria.

Barrow and Ulverstone were in Lancashire and it was called Furness, all administered out of the County town which was Preston.

Westmoreland’s County town was Appleby but it became Kendal in 1889 which is where archive records will more than likely be kept.

BTW

Holker Hall is the ancestral home of the Preston, Cavendish and Lowther families.  Hence if you find any of these names you may have hit the bullseye.

[lancsann]

As High Frith is close to Holker which is in the parish of Cartmel, it is Lancashire not Westmoreland that you need.

Did your John marry before he went to Australia?

[clancam37]

Hi lancsann,
Uncertain if he married prior to voyage to Tasmania?
He did marry here in 1824 to a lass born in Hobart town Tasmania.

Have had a look at old UK maps, Cartmel and Grange on Sands appear to have been in Lancashire in the 1600 to 1800s.
Thanks for your help
Regards
clancam37

[lancsann]

Just as a bit of history of Grange and Cartmel. There was a loop of an area which went into the Westmorland area and extended up as far as Coniston. It was part of what is still known as the county Palatine of Lancashire. It remained part of Lancashire until the reorganisation of counties in 1974 when the county of Cumbria was created. It is however still part of the Duchy of Lancaster, the Duke of Lancaster being the Queen.