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Re: Short Birth Certificate - can't find birth in GRO
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 11 April 20 14:05 BST (UK) »
A new short form of birth certificate was introduced on 15th December 1947, costing 6d. It showed only the name and surname, sex, date of birth and (where possible) place of birth. There were no particulars of parentage or adoption. In 1955 almost as many short as full certificates were being issued, every year, by Somerset House and local registrars.

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Re: Short Birth Certificate - can't find birth in GRO
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 11 April 20 14:17 BST (UK) »
A new short form of birth certificate was introduced on 15th December 1947, costing 6d.

The fee was changed to nine pence in the "Births and Deaths Registration Act, 1953"
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eliz2/1-2/20/section/33/enacted
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Re: Short Birth Certificate - can't find birth in GRO
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 11 April 20 15:52 BST (UK) »
Judging by the date the certificate was ordered to prove identity prior to his marriage. I also have one for his wife ordered at the same time. However whilst I can easily find her in the GRO Index, he is not there with the name and DOB on the certificate.
Am I right it thinking that the index will only show the name given at birth, so if his name was changed later in life it would not appear?

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Re: Short Birth Certificate - can't find birth in GRO
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 11 April 20 16:08 BST (UK) »
I can only speak about what I know about OH.  His birth is recorded in the quarter that he was born, with his name and surname at that time (1940).  There is no entry in the registers for the time his surname was changed (1955). 
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
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Re: Short Birth Certificate - can't find birth in GRO
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 11 April 20 16:30 BST (UK) »

Am I right it thinking that the index will only show the name given at birth, so if his name was changed later in life it would not appear?

There is no process for changing the original registration for a later change of name, unless there was a mistake made in the original registration.
See http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eliz2/1-2/20/section/29/enacted
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Re: Short Birth Certificate - can't find birth in GRO
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 11 April 20 18:56 BST (UK) »
Is he now deceased?   If so - it is ok to give us his details.  Without his name etc it's difficult to help you
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Re: Short Birth Certificate - can't find birth in GRO
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 12 April 20 14:25 BST (UK) »
Was he adopted?

It's the only reason I can think of for no place of birth, other than "England", to appear on a short certificate.

That would be the usual reason for a place to just be shown as a country.

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Re: Short Birth Certificate - can't find birth in GRO
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 14 April 20 19:07 BST (UK) »
Sorry, no I cannot post details.

I was hoping I could use one of the numbers from his short birth certificate to trace the record, but it appears not.


Was he adopted?

It's the only reason I can think of for no place of birth, other than "England", to appear on a short certificate.

That would be the usual reason for a place to just be shown as a country.

That is interesting. It certainly has never been spoken about but is beginning to look like a possibility.

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Re: Short Birth Certificate - can't find birth in GRO
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 15 April 20 09:14 BST (UK) »
Sorry, no I cannot post details.

I was hoping I could use one of the numbers from his short birth certificate to trace the record, but it appears not.

It should be possible to work out whether it is from a birth entry or an entry in the Adopted Children's Register - if you want to send me an image of it by PM, I will see if I can help.