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Offline PeterProg

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Family History Information on a 1920s California Marriage certificate
« on: Saturday 11 April 20 01:49 BST (UK) »
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I am researching a couple who were married in San Francisco, California in 1875.  I have the specific date of the marriage - 27 Feb - but it appears from my research to date that there is no marriage certificate surviving or available for this part of California at this time.  My specific interest in the record is to identify the maiden name of the bride, but it seems that I can take this search no further.

The next best thing to obtain this information might be to obtain a marriage certificate for the only one of their children who married.  He was married in Santa Rosa, Sonoma County, in 1924.

I have searched online and cannot find an answer to this question - is a 1924 Marriage Certificate in California likely to contain information on the maiden name of the Groom's mother?

The same fellow who married in 1924 was in the US Army in World War I, so that may be another possible source of information on his mother's maiden name.  Searching in the usual places (Ancestry etc) doesn't seem to bring up any Army enlistment or service record, though I know for sure that he was in the Army. I am sure that records for his time in the Army would exist, and I can pursue that further as a last resort.

However, I believe that any Army record is unlikely to record his mother's maiden name, while a Marriage certificate just might.

Appreciate any advice on what information I might find on a 1924 Marriage certificate.  Cheers

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Re: Family History Information on a 1920s California Marriage certificate
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 11 April 20 02:05 BST (UK) »
Here is a sample California marriage certificate from 1922.  It includes the mother's maiden name.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Family History Information on a 1920s California Marriage certificate
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 11 April 20 02:08 BST (UK) »
What is the name of the couple?
What is the name of the child who married?

There are lots of places to look...their death records, the children's death records, newspaper articles...etc...


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Re: Family History Information on a 1920s California Marriage certificate
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 April 20 02:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks both for your replies.

Looks like the son's 1924 Marriage Certificate might be just what I need.  I can see places online where I can order a Certificate for Informational purposes (that is I don't need it to be Authorized) but there seems only to be an option to mail the certificate to me.  I am in Australia and an email with the certificate attached would be much quicker and more efficient.  Any advice on US providers who would email the certificate?

I have looked pretty deeply for other sources for the maiden name, without success, but am certainly open to suggestions!  Her married name was Mary E. Rogers, having married Joseph Howe Rogers in San Francisco in 1875.  They had both come to California from Nova Scotia, Canada a couple of years previously.  She died in an accident in Alameda in 1906. There's plenty of newspaper coverage of that and other events in her life, but no mention of her maiden name.  Her son who married in 1924 in Santa Rosa was Ernest Howe Rogers.  His marriage certificate should have the answer based on the certificate you shared from 1922.

Many thanks, much appreciated.

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Re: Family History Information on a 1920s California Marriage certificate
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 April 20 04:38 BST (UK) »
Ernest Howe Rogers was born on 27 Jul 1885 and died 09 May 1956 in Alameda County.  Buried in Golden Gate National Cemetery.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VPNT-14Q
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/41029786/ernest-h-rogers
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pbb/
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Family History Information on a 1920s California Marriage certificate
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 April 20 05:01 BST (UK) »
Many thanks.  That's a useful link to his World War I service dates there.

Hopefully though, the 1924 Marriage Certificate for Ernest will give me the information I need re his mother's maiden name.  Before ordering though, I will call the cemetery where Mary E. Rogers was interred on 5 August 1906 - Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland - just in case her maiden name made it onto the records there.

FindaGrave says that they have photographed 96% of the graves in Oakland's Evergreen Cemetery, but I can see no Mary E. Rogers when I search that page on the site.  She must be among the 4% still to be photographed!

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Re: Family History Information on a 1920s California Marriage certificate
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 April 20 09:39 BST (UK) »
Obituary doesn't help you but will post any way

Oakland Tribune Oakland, California 10 May 1956, Thu    Page 45

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/48448521/obituary-for-ernest-h-rogers-aged-70/

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Re: Family History Information on a 1920s California Marriage certificate
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 11 April 20 09:48 BST (UK) »
Photo of Ernest in 1936

Oakland Tribune Oakland, California 14 Jul 1936, Tue   Page 2

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/48448870/ernest-rogers-14-july-1936/

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Re: Family History Information on a 1920s California Marriage certificate
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 April 20 09:51 BST (UK) »

marriage license - The Press Democrat Santa Rosa, California
24 Feb 1924, Sun    Page 12

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/48448912/marriage-license-24-february-1924/

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