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Re: Walter O'Donnell, NY
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 12 April 20 11:07 BST (UK) »
yes, Thomas 1889 is definitely a son but the others do not tie up with the census ages at all by a long shot. Strange. Two John O'D & Kate O'Brien's in Hoboken, Hudson....

This is a problem as you say.
The Walter who is an inmate in 1910 might be from the family in 1900, already posted.
There is no Thomas there  :-\
Do you have a reference for your family in 1900. You mention you have  John in 1900, 1920 and 1930.
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Re: Walter O'Donnell, NY
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 12 April 20 12:14 BST (UK) »
Ok. you might have found the second John & Catherine Family in 1900 in Hudson, NJ
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9JV-P26

Your 1910 census for the Hudson family looks positive
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M58P-NDL
Mandrake O'Donnell   Inmate   Male   13   New Jersey
Patric O'Donnell   Inmate   Male   11   New Jersey
Walter O'Donnell   Inmate   Male   7   New York

Then the other in 1900 Camden, New Jersey
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7602/4120412_00741/44977037?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/160350586/person/342187098641/facts/citation/982251129521/edit/record
John O Donnel
Kate O Donnel
Thomas O Donnel
James O Donnel
Kate O Donnel
Hannah O Donnel
Marie O Donnel

The Camden family in 1910
John O'Donnell Age41
Katherine O'Donnell Age40
Thomas J O'Donnell Age20
James M O'Donnell Age19
Katherine O'Donnell Age17
Joanna O'Donnell Age15
Marie O'Donnell Age12
Nellie O'Donnell Age9
Margaret O'Donnell Age6
Walter O'Donnell Age4
John O'Donnell Age1


Going back to my original message, I did say that I was given info that Walter and siblings were put up for adoption so maybe this points to the Hudson family.....
So he 1932 marriage of Walter is from the Hudson family maybe.
I will redo my "test" tree and incl this Hudson family and see what hints I get.
Cleary - Clonmel / Ardgeeha / Chancellorstown / Garryntemple---------------O' Donnell - Clerihan------------McGrath - Powerstown---------------Cullinan - Scrothea, Clonmel----------------Flemming - Clerihan----------------Brien - Monkstown----------------Dunne - Poulnagunoge  / Gladstone St, Clonmel-------------Dunn - New York------------O' Neill - Kilsheelan

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Re: Walter O'Donnell, NY
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 12 April 20 13:09 BST (UK) »
The marriage record says he was born in Hoboken, so I would think the ones in Hoboken would more likely be him & his family.  Camden is 1 1/2 hours away from Hoboken, so not like moving the next town over.

There is a WWII draft card from 1942 for a Walter Anthony O'Donnell born 1 Sep. 1905 in Hoboken and living at 1261 Park Ave., New York, NY.  The person listed as the one who would always know his address was his sister Mrs. Jene McLoughlin, 1169 E. 178th St., Bronx, NY.  Not sure if he's the right one or not.


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Re: Walter O'Donnell, NY
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 12 April 20 13:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks.
I couldn’t quite understand you having the father in later censuses if several of the children were put up for adoption unless his wife had died and he could not support his family.
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Re: Walter O'Donnell, NY
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 12 April 20 17:33 BST (UK) »
The marriage record says he was born in Hoboken, so I would think the ones in Hoboken would more likely be him & his family.  Camden is 1 1/2 hours away from Hoboken, so not like moving the next town over.

There is a WWII draft card from 1942 for a Walter Anthony O'Donnell born 1 Sep. 1905 in Hoboken and living at 1261 Park Ave., New York, NY.  The person listed as the one who would always know his address was his sister Mrs. Jene McLoughlin, 1169 E. 178th St., Bronx, NY.  Not sure if he's the right one or not.

This is Jean McLoughlin at E 178th Street in 1940
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQ2Y-B3Z

The marriage of Jean O’ Donnell

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24D2-LSK

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Re: Walter O'Donnell, NY
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 12 April 20 17:53 BST (UK) »
I don't know if this is random coincidence, a remarriage, or a similarly named relative, but Mariam O'Donnell married a John E. McLaughlin in Hoboken in 1945.  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HW86-LQZM

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Re: Walter O'Donnell, NY
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 12 April 20 18:00 BST (UK) »
Oh my goodness  :)
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Re: Walter O'Donnell, NY
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 12 April 20 19:45 BST (UK) »
Here is the Camden family in 1920
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4P1-LH4

This Walter is 14 yrs born abt 1906. This also fits with 1910 census.
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Re: Walter O'Donnell, NY
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 12 April 20 20:37 BST (UK) »
Considering there were adult children in the family in Camden, NJ as of 1920 and that Walter was already 14 with 2 living parents, it doesn't sounds likely to be a family with a bunch of kids put up for adoption.  I would think either his siblings would have cared for him or he would have had to go to work for himself.

I found a Walter Donnell (no O') on the SSDI who has Sept. 1 as his date of birth like the one in the WWII draft card, but the year was 1902.  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VSNY-8P1  He died in Aug. 1976.  However, the last place of residence of New York, New York doesn't seem to fit a burial in Orange County.

I found 2 mentions in Monroe, NY newspapers on fultonhistory.com of a Walter O'Donnell that could be him.  One from 2 Sep. 1976 says a mass was going to be said for him the next day at St. Anastasia Church, serving Woodbury-Monroe Townships.  That fits with the cemetery on Find a Grave.  There is also a mention on 2 Nov. 1978 of Mary O'Donnell donating money to the same church in memory of Walter O'Donnell.