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samuel cleaton 1841 census lookup
« on: Sunday 12 April 20 08:39 BST (UK) »
please can someone do a 1841 census look up for me HO107-1436-41-5 Samuel cleaton born 1797/1801 living with his wife Ann and their 9 children. Do it say he was born in county and what census year do they asked if he can speak welsh or both

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Re: samuel cleaton 1841 census lookup
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 April 20 09:28 BST (UK) »
1841 says "born in county" but 1851 gives Builth, Breconshire as birthplace.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: samuel cleaton 1841 census lookup
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 April 20 09:41 BST (UK) »
yes which makes it harder to find a baptism for him

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Re: samuel cleaton 1841 census lookup
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 12 April 20 10:31 BST (UK) »
1871 census says    
Llangyrig, Merionethshire so thats 3 county's


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Re: samuel cleaton 1841 census lookup
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 12 April 20 21:05 BST (UK) »
1841 says "born in county" but 1851 gives Builth, Breconshire as birthplace.
Hi do they say he's welsh speaking on the 1851 census

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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 April 20 21:27 BST (UK) »
It was not asked on 1851 census.

1891 has a possibility living in Glamorgan who is shown as a Welsh speaker.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: samuel cleaton 1841 census lookup
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 April 20 21:32 BST (UK) »
Thank you so it looks like he was born in wales

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Re: samuel cleaton 1841 census lookup
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 12 April 20 21:40 BST (UK) »
language(s) spoken is only shown on census entries from 1891 onwards. I think the 1871 census is incorrect in showing Merionethshire as there isn't a Llangyrig in that county

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MER/Where

but there is a Llangurig in Montgomeryshire

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MGY/Llangurig
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: samuel cleaton 1841 census lookup
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 April 20 07:23 BST (UK) »
This could be a long shot as i can't find a baptism in wales for Samuel cleaton i wonder if he moved into the area from England and learnt to speak welsh.Samuel named his 1st born Richard. so i been looking for Samuel born abt 1806 with a father name Richard. I found one in Hopton wafers Shropshire his mother died when Samuel was 5 yrs old