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Hartney of Ballingarry
« on: Sunday 12 April 20 16:31 BST (UK) »
John Hartney joined the RIC on 15th June 1850 aged 22. Previously, a labourer he was recommended by Henry Langley JP. He was allocated a post in County Down on 1st October 1850. He resigned on 18th March 1855 and later joined the Dublin Metropoitan police. Whilst in Co Down he appears to have married Mary Murray from Kircubbin (but cannot locate the marriage). I think he died in Dublin 1873 (aged 45).

According to Jim Hehirly's book on the DMP, John Hartney was born in 1830 in Ballingarry, County Tipperary.

Looking for some leads on the Hartney family or variations on the surname Hartney in the Ballingarry area.

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Re: Hartney of Ballingarry
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 April 20 18:25 BST (UK) »
Hi,
This is Mary in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003757633/

1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000433292/

Mary's death...first entry

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1912/05374/4499121.pdf

In Griffiths Valuation there is only a Patrick Hartney listed, in the townland of  BOLINTLEA
This was in 1850.

The map of Bolintlea
https://www.townlands.ie/tipperary/slievardagh/ballingarry/farranrory/bolintlea/

This will help with your search
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

Bolintlea  registration districts...... either Cashel or Thurles, it in between the two towns.

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Re: Hartney of Ballingarry
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 April 20 18:32 BST (UK) »
Thankyou ;D

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Re: Hartney of Ballingarry
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 12 April 20 19:01 BST (UK) »
Death of William Hartney in 1930 at 12 Clonmore Terrace.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1930/04918/4334895.pdf

Death of Joseph Hartney in 1947 at Grangegorman Mental Hospital. His address was 12 Clonmore Terrace.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1947/04584/4212918.pdf

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Re: Hartney of Ballingarry
« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 April 20 13:34 BST (UK) »
https://digital.ucd.ie/view-media/ucdlib:53467/canvas/ucdlib:53728

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 joined 1855 discharged 1873

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Re: Hartney of Ballingarry
« Reply #5 on: Monday 13 April 20 18:03 BST (UK) »
all the above Hartney's are buried in Glasnevin including Mary Mc Elroy nee Hartney in 1943

you can purchase a full readout of all person's in John's grave for 10 euro
https://www.glasnevintrust.ie/genealogy/trace-you-ancestry/

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Re: Hartney of Ballingarry
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 April 20 10:48 BST (UK) »
Possible timeline for marriage

Resigns R I C   March 1855
Joins  D M P     April   1855

John born 13th April 1857 at Faithful Place
Note one of his sponsors is J Kerwik who seems to be by Proxy for Mauritius (Maurice)Hartney
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.marys_pro-cathedral_mf_1826-1858_ba_0652

John would have been conceived around Aug 1856

Patrick 1859
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.mary%27s-pro-cath_mf_1858-1865_ba_0162

John 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Arran_Quay/Aughrim_Street/1334441/

Patrick 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Arran_Quay/Carnew_Street/1334546/

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Re: Hartney of Ballingarry
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 April 20 10:56 BST (UK) »
Rules and Regulations for R I C and D M P
A policemans lot not a happy one
http://www.tara.tcd.ie/bitstream/handle/2262/89359/D%20(89).pdf?sequence=1

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Re: Hartney of Ballingarry
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 April 20 12:12 BST (UK) »
A Martin in England 1851 possibly a soldier
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGLC-23X
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