herbert smith

[cottard]

hi guys
new here also my maiden name is smith .
my grandparents were Herbert earnest smith born 1894  and Ethel maxted born 1922.

my ggrandparents on ethel side were walter maxted born 1890 married lillian maxted ( cobb) born 1891

my ggrandparents on herbert side are josiah smith born 1855 Sarah smith born 1868

that is where am stuck with herbert  cant find out anything else family come lincoln and the story is we are Romany gypsies but i dont know how or why or even how far back we go any help or information would be great thanks .

[PaulineJ]

SMITH, HERBERT  ERNEST     HEATH 
GRO Reference: 1894  S Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 316

Is this your man? Hes the only one born that year, but not near Lincoln.

Ethel was born Lincoln in 1921, not 22.

[cottard]

thanks Pauline  i have just looked at a picture of Herbert grave stone he was 67 years old when he died so he was born in 1897.

[PaulineJ]

So is this his birth?
   Name:   Mother's Maiden Surname:
   SMITH, HERBERT  ERNEST     WAINWRIGHT 
GRO Reference: 1897  M Quarter in HEREFORD  Volume 06A  Page 489

Or yet another year from the 1901?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSDW-ZL4

Family in 1891 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WT83-RMM

[rosie99]

Welcome to rootschat

Where and when did Herbert die.  Do you have a copy of Herbert & Ethels marriage certificate

[jonw65]

i have just looked at a picture of Herbert grave stone he was 67 years old when he died

On Find a Grave
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/158617791

But death reg has him two years older
June 1964  Lincoln 3b 303
Smith, Herbert E.
age 69

If the info on Find a Grave is correct(?), Herbert was previously married to Hilda Earl (which was in 1919, as plain Herbert)
That couple seem to be together in Lincoln on the 1939 Register.
Free index has Herbert Smith born 1894, at 103 Goldsmith Walk.

Herbert Smith of 103 Goldsmith Walk is in the Lincolnshire Echo, 7 December 1932.
Something about a radio pole.

[rosie99]

1901
RG13/3063 f153 p11
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSDW-ZL4

Josiah born North Searle, Lincolnshire

Son Isiah
SMITH, ISAIAH       mmn WILSON 
1886  Dec Quarter in LINCOLN  Volume 07A  Page 496  Occasional Copy: A

SMITH, HERBERT       mmn WILSON 
1895  June Quarter in LINCOLN  Volume 07A  Page 544

[cottard]

thanks for the reply Herbert was married before to Hilda and believe they had a son called Edwin g smith born 1924. dont know what happend to him.

i dont have any certificate and when i have tried to talk to family bout the passed they dont say anything.

plus ethel had two sons with different surnames to rest of her children one her maiden name maxted and a nother as turner as surname.

as for josiah yes i do belive he was born at north scarle.

[rosie99]

Josiah with parents 1881
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27V-R634

1871 in two parts
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRF9-BWL
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRF9-BWR