Samuel Hall Robins

[matsonline]

I am trying to find the parents of ,Samuel Hall Robins born 1758 london i think.
I dont have a fathers name,
His mothers name was Martha Robins nee Hall  and he married Lucy Godsoe
would be greatful for any help
thanks

[tazzie]

  Hi. Where do you have the mothers details from? There is a baptism in St Mary's Portsea Hampshire.
     Samuel Hall Robins bapt 22 June 1760 father William no mothers name.

Tazzie

[AMBLY]

Entry for WILLIAM ROBINS here:
https://sites.rootsweb.com/~blacksmiths/shipwrights-1.htm


William Robins, shipwright.
"Born circa 1730 in ?place unknown.
Son of Richard Bunter Robins of Wiltshire.
In his will dated 19 Feb. 1762, William Robins of Portsea, shipwright, provided for his wife, Martha, & three children, all baptised St Mary's, Portsea:
William Robins, bap. 11/5/1755;
Samuel Hall Robins, bap. 22/6/1760,
Ann Robins, bap. 10/1/1762.
William Robins must have died soon after writing the will, as it was proved 17 April 1762. "

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

The 1762 Will explains that William was left a considerable estate in 1759 by his late Uncle of he same name:

"..... I give devise and bequeath unto my beloved
wife Martha All that Capital, Messuage, Tenement or dwelling
house in Cromhall in the County of Gloucester with all the
Houses, Outhouses, Edifices, Buildings, Barns, Stables, Gardens,
Orchards, Courts, Yards, Backsides Outletts and appurtenances
thereunto belonging together with the Closes in the parish of
Cromhall aforesaid called by the names of the ____ Close, Gosty
Ridings and the Calves Lease formerly two Closes and called
Leonards patch and the farther Ridings all which said premises
were lately the Estate of my late Uncle William Robins of Cromhall
aforesaid, Esquire and given and devised to me by his last Will
and Testament bearing dated on or about the twenty fourth day
of February which was in the year of our Lord one thousand
seven hundred and fifty nine To hold to my said wife Martha....


A wealth of information here:
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/glos/vol4/pp438-448

this is about the Uncle:
".....Mary's nephew William Robins, who was the lessee in 1725,... became high sheriff of Gloucestershire in 1737 and a landowner in Cromhall....In 1760, after his death..."

Cheers
AMBLY

[matsonline]

Hello Ambly,

Thanks for all that ,i have just dug that WILL out of a pile of wills and doc's i have  so i'm on it.
Seems like William and Martha's  Son William Robins went back to Cromhall where he married  Hannah Hale in 1771 and then died in 1775
Thanks again
Cheers
Brian Robbins

[PARobins]

William Robins (c.1731-1762) and Martha Hall had three children baptised at St Marys in Portsea, and Martha, the daughter of Samuel Hall, was also baptised at St Marys (6 June 1736). Samuel Hall Robins moved to London where he married Lucy Godsoe on 1 September 1782, while William Robins remained in Portsea where he married Mary Cornthwaite Temple on 7 September 1781 at St Marys and was buried on 1 April 1810, again at St Marys in Portsea.

William Robins, despite being "in perfect health", died within two months of writing his will. His uncle William Robins Esq (buried at Malmesbury, 11 February 1760) had bequeathed him considerable property in Cromhall, which he left to his wife Martha to hold for his son William until he turned 21. However, due to the nefarious dealings of Richard Matthews (who married Ann Jack, the niece of William of Cromhall) and Conway Whitehouse (an unscrupulous lawyer who obtained and disposed of the estate), I doubt that young William Robins actually inherited any property in Cromhall.

William Robins of Cromhall gave and devised his properties to his wife Ann to hold until her decease, when his capital messuage and residence in Cromhall with all houses etc. should have passed to his nephew William and his heirs. Ann Robins was buried at Cromhall on 4 November 1781 and the only living trustee and executor of her will (Francis Jobbins) refused to act in proving the will or in his executorship.

If the William Robins who married Hannah Hale in 1771 was from Portsea then he was only 16 years old, with a long wait before the possibility of any inheritance in Cromhall, and if he died in December 1775 it was tragically just before his 21st birthday. But if William married Mary Cornthwaite in September 1781 he was 26 years old, perhaps aware that Ann was infirm and expecting his inheritance within weeks.

Peter