When to go to hospital

[mazi]

Really reassuring to hear good NHS stories.
I think everyone should have a Plan of what to do, where to go, who to contact in case of need.

I'm rather sceptical and I don't think whatever your plan that it will necessarily be carried out. We will have to rely on medical staff to make the decision as to whether you are ill enough to be admitted to hospital. That may also depend where you live and how full the hospitals are.

The best plan is to try and avoid getting it in the first place by not going out unless really necessary.

More sound advice there.

The way I see it if your symptoms are bad enough then 111 will send paramedics, they will decide if you need hospital, based on their now considerable experience.

If you can breathe well enough to talk you most likely don’t need to go to hospital.

Worrying about it too much can itself provoke your immune system into overdrive.

If you are fit and healthy then on the current figures you have a one in four million chance of dying.

Mike

[Gadget]

I'm rather sceptical and I don't think whatever your plan that it will necessarily be carried out. We will have to rely on medical staff to make the decision as to whether you are ill enough to be admitted to hospital. That may also depend where you live and how full the hospitals are.

The best plan is to try and avoid getting it in the first place by not going out unless really necessary.

I agree totally with groom.
 
I've not read all of the thread - are you in one of the vulnerable groups?

[bykerlads]

I absolutely agree that the best plan is to avoid getting the virus in the first place. And we are all working hard on this.
But I still think that some thought should be given to how to ensure that one gets access to the best treatment as soon as possible.
If ill people got immediate access to medical treatment, there would perhaps not be so many fatalities.
I still have the uneasy feeling that the screening/advice/111 criteria are standing in the way of folk getting expert help.
One needs to be proactive in an extreme situation, not a compliant victim. Insist on getting hospital treatment.
Despite all the heroic efforts of our nhs workers in the UK, we seem to not be doing too well compared to other cou tries. ( though of course the "statistics game" is always open to closer scrutiny)
I would like to see far more people sent for specialist treatment in good time, rather being advised to stay at home, inexpertly cared for, until their condition worsens beyond salvation.

[Gadget]

One needs to be proactive in an extreme situation, not a compliant victim. Insist on getting hospital treatment.

Yes, in an ideal world, this would happen but it seems to me that you've not been following any of the bulletins, information, etc.

Try turning up at the Dept of Health and demanding treatment in the real world.

[mazi]

In the real world sensible reasonable people get the best treatment possible including going the extra mile.
The less tolerant get exactly what the book says, no more no less.

In fact there is no “treatment”,   Just oxygen if you really need it, to stay alive, after that it’s down to you and your immune system.

Mike

[bykerlads]

Yes, Exactly. I do agree.
Though getting oxygen to stay alive seems like treatment to me.
Getting access to oxygen to stay alive should be available to us all.
Am currently trying to compare UK systems of dealing with the virus with those of other developed countries. That should enable us to check if our system is serving us well or, despite everyones efforts and good intentions, preventing us from getting timely medical, life-saving interventions.

[Gadget]

Comparisons have been made with Germany. that put us in a bad light.

I'm in the vulnerable category so I'm not taking any risks. I take walks around my garden rather than outside, and everything that comes into the house from the big outside world is thoroughly cleaned. Newcastle has a very good health care record but is halfway up/down the tier stats.

If I had some of the more serious symptoms, I'd phone 999 or my GP. I wouldn't phone 111.

[louisa maud]

I am beating my head against a wall at present, my husband has been unwell since Good Friday, if I am to believe him, by Sunday he was much worse, slept all day except meal times, I thought he might have had a UTI as he was quite nasty to me on Sunday, Tuesday he was feeling much better and managed to go for a blood test on Wednesday, Thursday again he was much worse, he can somehow sleep most of the day and still get at least 7 hours at night, he believes he has had covid 19, he will not allow me to ring 111 or the Dr, I really cannot understand how he can diagnose himself, he is a little better today but this has gone on for 10 days now and I am now locked in  just in case

Louisa Maud

[ThrelfallYorky]

Ring the Doctor! Just in case. There are other things it may be, and could be equally important.