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6th dragoon
« on: Saturday 18 April 20 00:18 BST (UK) »
My great great grandfather, James Blake Linder was in the 6th in Ireland had his first child - Minnie - with Caroline is born in Caher.  I would like to find out about his military life - he states in a court in England that he was in the Carabineers - joined 1846 and was a farrier in G troop.  Can anyone help please?  With many thanks. Kelly.


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Re: 6th dragoon
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 April 20 13:00 BST (UK) »
Hello Kelly - Welcome to Rootschat  :D

Well there is a marriage for a James Blake Linder to an Anne Hill on 25 December 1851 at Derrygrath, Tipperary.  Father is Richard.  This information is from a transcription.

Is this your James?  You suggest that his wife is Caroline?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: 6th dragoon
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 April 20 13:07 BST (UK) »
I have found a baptism for a James Blake Linder born 27 September 1823 and baptised on 9 May 1824 at Beccles in Suffolk.  Parents are Richard and Mary Ann Linder.  This was a non-conformist baptism.

Are you expecting John to be Irish or was it just that he joined an Irish company?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: 6th dragoon
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 April 20 13:09 BST (UK) »
There is a death which appears to be the same man.

LINDER, JAMES  BLAKE     51 
GRO Reference: 1875  M Quarter in CHIPPING NORTON  Volume 03A  Page 600
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: 6th dragoon
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 April 20 13:12 BST (UK) »
Do you have a sub to Find My Past?  If so there are British Army Service Records for a James Linder of the 6th Dragoon Guards.  Cover 1865 to 1875. Pension year 1868, death 1875.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: 6th dragoon
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 18 April 20 23:04 BST (UK) »
Hi there.   Thankyou so much for your quick reply!   This is my first use of this forum so I am very grateful.    The records you have found are indeed my man - he married Elizabeth Ives in England in 1847 just after he had joined the 6ths as a farrier.   Fathered a daughter and off to army life he went, to Ireland.   While there in 1851, on Christmas Day he married (again!) Ann Hill but was charged with bigamy on Feb 17th, given a 12 month sentence, sent to Clonmel, bailed on May 30th at which point, back to 6ths he went.  He then went back to England and fathered a son with is first wife and left again with the army.  He disappears from their lives forever at this point.   Then somewhere in there, he meets Caroline, my 2 x gt grandmother - no marriage record is to be found - and they go on to have four children altogeher but the first dies a few days old.   She goes with him to Ireland and the 6ths as their next child is born there.  I have found out that he must be good at his job as he is finally Farrier Major and yesterday, found the discharge papers in 1868. 
What happened to his wife no 2 and marriage?  Did they annul the marriage automatically or did they have to get divorced on paper and if so, where would I find it?   I can't find her anywhere after that.   I tried searching her father, Matthew but not much on him - or perhaps I just don't have enough info on them to generate a decent search.
As for his army life - I would like to understand more of that.   He seemed a decent enough fellow - just didn't have a good start at the wife picking bit.  Have an awesome day!

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Re: 6th dragoon
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 18 April 20 23:10 BST (UK) »
Sorry you asked about subscriptions to Find my Past - I have a basic one but am super frustrated as it shows there is a record but I can't actually see it.   I tried looking at his world wide army 1851  and 1861 listing but although its there, can't see it.   I also tried to look up Irish prison records but have the same issue.  I have a full membership with ancestry but can't quite stretch to one with FindMyPast right now. 

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Re: 6th dragoon
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 April 20 08:35 BST (UK) »
Tell  me what you would like to know from the Find My Past records and I'll have a look as I have a sub.

Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: 6th dragoon
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 April 20 08:44 BST (UK) »
It is not just the 6th but a huge number of Regiments are online with their details.

I found out so much of information about my GGGrandfather who was in the 36th

The National Army Museum website is a good first stop.

This is the link to the Dragoons

https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/6th-dragoon-guards-carabiniers