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Re: 6th dragoon
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 19 April 20 09:43 BST (UK) »
Below is the info from the British Army Service Record.  There is no image with this one.

James Linder, Rate 2/-, Date 14th July 1868, number 935,
 
District Ipswich,

1st April 1871 Coventry,

1873 Coventry,

1875 died 7th March

British Army Worldwide Index 1851 and 1861 - no image for these

1851 - James Linder - Service No. 935

Rank - Private

Regiment - 6Th Regiment Of Dragoon Guards (Carabiniers)

Period - 01/01/1851-31/03/1851

Location - Cahir, Ireland

Nat. Arc. Ref. - WO 12/374

For the 1861 Index the difference is that he is now a Farrier Major and regiment stationed on board ship from Meerut East Indies

Nat. Arc. Ref. - WO12 / 382

Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 19 April 20 09:57 BST (UK) »
I think you will not find anything in relation to his second marriage as it was a bigamous marriage and therefore annulled. It would be interesting to see an image of that 1851 marriage but there only appears to be a transcription available.  No doubt James claimed he was a bachelor when he wasn't!

I would imagine that no marriage will be found for Caroline and James as his legitimate wife Elizabeth was probably still alive then.  As James has already been in prison for bigamy he was unlikely to wish to do that again.

Have you checked the census records to see if you can find Elizabeth?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 19 April 20 10:02 BST (UK) »
I see Elizabeth is in the 1851 census residing at Loddon and Clavering Union House, Heckingham, Loddon, Norfolk with her daughter Maria

Registration district   Loddon
Archive reference   HO107
Piece number   1820
Folio   224
Page   17
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: 6th dragoon
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 19 April 20 10:07 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth is still claiming to be married in the 1861 census and now has a son. Living at Quares Lane, St Marys Bungay, Wangford, Suffolk


Registration district   Wangford
Enumeration district   10 C
Archive reference   RG09
Piece number   1184
Folio   90
Page   14

Son's birth registration

LINDER, CHARLES       IVES 
GRO Reference: 1851  J Quarter in LODDON AND CLAVERING  Volume 13  Page 232
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: 6th dragoon
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 19 April 20 10:28 BST (UK) »
Just to add: the record shows that he spent 10 months in the Crimea and Turkey, and 4 years 8 months in the East Indies. He appears on the Crimea medal roll.
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Re: 6th dragoon
« Reply #14 on: Monday 20 April 20 01:35 BST (UK) »
G'day Girl Guide.    Thanks heaps -

When James Linder married Anne Hill he was committing bigamy - she is wife no. 2.   Wife no.1 is in England (Elizabeth Ives).   He's charged and sentenced to 12 months at Clonmel, in March 1852 but is bailed end May 1852. 

Is there any information with regards to the case against him in newspapers or records and the outcome?  Irish Prison records I think are on FindMyPast.

With many thanks
Kelly

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Re: 6th dragoon
« Reply #15 on: Monday 20 April 20 01:40 BST (UK) »
G'day ShaunJ

Thank you!  I knew he'd gone to Crimea - and I think to Turkey afterwards as he stayed with the 6ths until discharge in 1868 - I need to do some reading and map out exactly where the regt was from year to year.

Do you know anything about what his 'job' would be?   I'm guessing as Farrier Major he is the horsey dude in charge of the other horsey dudes but did they go to the front line?   Did they actively fight?   The fact he went to Crimea - what a nightmare scenario - and then on to Turkey etc after - I hope he was more the back line dude for his sake...!

Thanks so much - hope you have a great day.   We are still in full lock down so loads of time to do this!
Kelly

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« Reply #16 on: Monday 20 April 20 08:59 BST (UK) »
From the Dublin Evening Packet of 9 March 1852:
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Re: 6th dragoon
« Reply #17 on: Monday 20 April 20 09:04 BST (UK) »
Description of farrier from old occupations

Farrier   1) A blacksmith who shoes horses 2) Horse Doctor 3) Cavalry NCO responsible for horses
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire