The Tangled Web of Wainman

[rosie99]

Thank you, that fills the gaps on the record I found.  So they had a second marriage ceremony when they returned to England.

[osprey]

there's a death notice in the Morning Post 21 July 1871
Wainman - on the 19th inst, at Carr Head, Yorkshire Maria, wife of William Bradley Wainman Esq., aged 55 years.
The only 1872 death reg for a William Wainman is
William Bradley Wainman 59 march qtr Northallerton vol 9d pg 382
death was 17 Jan from an newspaper article about probate of his will

Not a match for the couple in 1861.

 

[cath151]

Sister to John David?
Marriage The Pilot 13 Oct 1848
In Upper Rutland Street, Joseph Burke assistant surgeon 50th Regiment to Juliana, second daughter of the late William O Hanlon Esq, Sandy Cove, Kingstown.
Several mentions of a William O Hanlon Esq in the Dublin area , something to do with silk trade/weavers  but hard to know if it is the correct man.

Cathy

[osprey]

death reg for Mary Augusta
Mary Augusta Wainman 60 sept qtr 1888 Brighton vol 2b pg 109

1881 census 7 Upper Rock Gardens RG11/1078 folio 51 pg 4
Mary A Wainham widow 53 annuitant b. Dublin
boarding in the household of Valentine McGuinness

[osprey]

death notice from 19 Jan 1866
Wainman - 14th, at Bayswater, William Wainman Esq., formerly Captain 3rd Regiment (The Buffs), elder son of the late Major Wainman, of Woodhayes Hall, Cheshire.

death reg
William Wainman 34 march qtr 1866 Kensington vol 1a pg 30

[osprey]

burial in Ashton Upon Mersey 20 Jan 1866 William Wainman 34 address London

1841 census Woodhay Hall, Ashton upon Mersey, Cheshire HO107/91/2 folio 6 pg 6
William Wainman 50 Ind
Jane 35
Emma 9
Eliza Jane 8
Louisa Mary 2
Rose Catherine 9 months
+ 7 servants
children all born in county, William & Jane not born in county

baptism in Ashton upon Mersey 4 August 1850 Gordon Wainman son of William, gentleman, & Jane
burial same parish William Wainman 61 20 April 1850

census 1851 4 Lendal, York HO107/2353 folio 313 pg 25
Jane Wainman head widow 48 fundholder (gentlewoman) b. Manchester
Eliza J dau 17
Louisa M dau 11
Rose C dau 10
Gertrude dau 5
Gordon son 1
+ 7 servants
children all born Cheshire, Ashton

Baptism in Headingley, Leeds 4 July 1831 William Wainman born 5 June 1830 son of William, Captain in the Army, and Jane.
GRO index has mother's maiden name of Atkinson on the birth regs of Gordon & Gertude
Marriage by licence 7 April 1828 Knaresborough Yorkshire for William Wainman of Leeds and Jane Atkinson of Knaresborough, witnesses Thos Kingsby, Emma Margarett Kingsby, Charles Kingsby, all signed. Not sure about surname of witnesses.

[osprey]

newspaper notice of marriage from 10 April 1828
on Monday, the 7th instant, at Knaresborough, William Wainman Esq., of Wood Hayes, Cheshire, second son of the late William Wainman Esq., Carhead, Yorkshire to Jane, daughter of Thomas Atkinson Esq., Upper Montagu Street, Montagu Square, London.

So William was related to the Wainmans of Carrhead, but descended from a second son, and the estate would have gone to the oldest. Second son went into the Army, not unusual.

There's an obituary in the Naval & Miltary Gazette for the William who died in 1866
'3rd (The Buffs) Capt. William Wainman, formerly of this regiment died at Bayswater on the 14th inst. The gallant deceased was the elder son of the later Major Wainman of Woodhayes hall, Cheshire. He entered the service as Ensign, Dec 12th 1851, and became Lieutenant June 6 1854. He served at the siege of Sebastopol in 1855, for which he received a medal and clasp, and became Captain 1 Feb 1856.'

[osprey]

baptism at Kildwick  10 May 1789
William son of William Wainman of Carrhead in Cowling Esqr and Elizabeth his wife. Born the 8th day of May 1789.

In the same parish
baptism 1 Jan 1814, born 29 Feb 1812, for William Bradley Wainman, son of Richard Bradley Wainman, Esquire, & Amelia of Shipley in the parish of Bradford. (the one who died in 1872)

baptism 25 March 1783 Richard Bradley, son of William Wainman of Carrhead in Cowling Esqr and Elizabeth his wife born 25th in the evening this same day

[GhostTour17]

This was a FABULOUS start to my day.  I'm absolutely gobsmacked with gratitude to all of you.  I've dug and dug, trying to find any link to Mary A. O'Hanlon.  I've become friends with the ggg grandson of Charles Slingsby Wainman and although he had a few bits of information of Charles S.W.'s life before he came to the US in 1888, there's precious little the family has about Mary Wainman's background and family.  You will have made his day, too.  Now, I have to try to trace down Charles - I've most of his military records but I would love to try to find mention of where/when he was sent off to school.

I've even gone to the point of now looking into family acquaintances to see if I can't locate a society diary somewhere - some mention of everyday life.  I've had some luck with this - if anyone would like to see photos, I'd be happy to post a few.  Every precious bit of info I have found have made me wish I could have known CS Wainman and his wife, Dorothea - I'm in the process (and it will probably not be until next year, as I've other kettles simmering all over the place) of writing a theatre piece about Captain Wainman and his two friends - who also came here in 1888 - Captain Charles St. George Winn and Captain Basil John Fisher.  (I have tons of info about them - will eventually post, though, about. my missing bits and pieces for them, so no need to go looking into them just yet).

CSW and his wife truly had an impact on our sleepy little Southern town when they arrived here.  Understand - our population was around 170, most of whose ancestors ended up here during our revolution in the 1700's.  We had about a half dozen extremely prosperous businessmen and families but there was NOTHING to compare with the splash and dash of what has come to be known over the centuries as "Our Three English Captains".  I cannot even begin to imagine what a portion of our less educated (and I don't mean stupid - just poor and having had no access to learning or much of the outside world - out of our borders) - they inspired buildings, broadened our world, were the inspiration for literary societies, manners, fashion and etc.  CSW and his wife were especially loved - despite the profoundly wealthy and social background both he and Dorothea Leslie were raised in, neither was the least hesitant to roll up sleeves and get to work - and work they did with unassuming good nature and wonderful humour.  When Charles died so young and so tragically, the local papers carried 1/4 to 1/2 page tributes to him - hundreds attended his funeral.  I often visit his grave and that of his best friend (Captain Charles St. George Winn - who predeceased Charles S. Wainman by less than 5 months, just past his 26th birthday) - and it saddens me.  They share a tiny plot from which has grown an immensely huge Oak tree.  I've purchased all the materials needed to restore/clean their graves and hopefully at some point, Charles S. Wainman's ggg grandson and cousin will be coming here to help with the cleaning and restoration - after which we'll do a proper rubbing to frame and donate to the historical society.

EVERY ONE OF YOU - has been a major gift to me today.  As I've said before - my heart aches and I hope that you and yours are staying well - all of us in our separate sets of isolation everywhere.  I'm 60 years old - it's been nearly a lifelong dream to eventually get to Yorkshire - I was in the UK in 2006 but there was a massing railroad strike and my plans for a week there went awry.   If I ever get there and we can all manage to meet - I'll buy a round and we can share a toast to this insane addiction of ours to our forebears.
 
Signing off with much affection!

Nancy