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Re: Bigamy?
« Reply #18 on: Friday 03 July 20 11:32 BST (UK) »
All I can glean at the moment is

Joe Athey
to Elizabeth Mountain
publication 18/04/1878 Lincold, Rutland and Stamford Mercury

Will try another direction

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« Reply #19 on: Friday 03 July 20 11:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks Louisa Maud and John

Paper says "...on the 13th (April), at the Primitive Methodist chapel, Joe Athey, grocer, of Villery-street, Sheffield, to Elizabeth Mountain, of Waltham;....

That's good, because Joe is a "Fruiterer" on the Census - I'm happy we've got the right people and that Elizabeth went to London.  Just a mystery about the "Pearce" bit - I couldn't find a marriage.

The 1911 Census does specify children born of present marriage, so Elizabeth would put "None" with William Allum. However, Joe Athey has put present marriage of 33 years and 1 child, none still living (that would be his daughter, Edith Jane, with Elizabeth) - so I don't think that other marriage would be "our" Joe.

Elizabeth's MMN was Hockney and she had three siblings that I've tracked and who give no clues: Sarah Mountain-Burnett; Charlotte Mountain-Sarjantson; and George Hockney Mountain.

Strangely, Sarah and Charlotte don't seem to have GRO records for birth.

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« Reply #20 on: Friday 03 July 20 11:42 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth might not have married Mr Pearce, lots didn't in those days, have you looked at variations, so she would have married as Elizabeth Athey ?

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Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
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« Reply #21 on: Friday 03 July 20 11:53 BST (UK) »
Yes, tried Mountain (maiden name), Athey (1st husband), Greenland (2nd husband) - I've looked for ANY Elizabeth with a father called William Mountain or who is a "Station Master".  I know that not all the London Church Marriage Registers will be on ancestry, which would record the father's details.

I've looked at 68 Star Street (1901 marriage address given by Elizabeth, presumably somewhere near Paddington) and no clue from that - although by 1901 Census Elizabeth was already living with William Allum (although not married) and 1891 Census was before she married David Moody Greenland.  I think Mr Pearce would come in between, if there was one?

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« Reply #22 on: Friday 03 July 20 12:18 BST (UK) »
Yes, Star St is not far from Paddington Station from Praed St

Found for 2 unregistered daughters, parents William and Jane

Sarah Mountain 06/06/1846 Laceby not from church records

Charlotte
Parish ch Clee
18/07/1848 Occ Tailor and railway gaet keeper

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Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
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« Reply #23 on: Friday 03 July 20 12:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks Louisa Maud.

Great that you found those - I wonder why there's no GRO for them.  I thought they might have been Jane Hockney's children, but she married William Mountain in the March quarter 1846.

Yes, there is a Star Street in Paddington (the register just says "68 Star Street"), so I'm also looking at Star Street, West Ham, just in case - although it is likely to be the Paddington one, I guess.

Thank you.

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« Reply #24 on: Friday 03 July 20 12:32 BST (UK) »
The grooms address was local to that area

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Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
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Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
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« Reply #25 on: Friday 03 July 20 12:50 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth's brother, George Hockney Mountain, died on 12 December 1890, when his niece, Edith Jane, had already been "abandoned" by Elizabeth and left with the grandfather, William Mountain.

I'm going to order George's Will and see if there is any provision for his niece or, even better, some kind of reference to Elizabeth.

I'll post an update here when I've got it.

Many thanks for all your comments.

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« Reply #26 on: Friday 03 July 20 13:04 BST (UK) »
unbelievable that she abandond her child but we really don' t know the history but we cannot change it

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Census information is Crown Copyright,
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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes