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« Reply #27 on: Friday 03 July 20 13:42 BST (UK) »
RW1, you probably have this but just incase:

1. Birth ref Eliza Ann Mountain JQ 1853 Caistor 7a 553 mmn Hockney, baptised 26.6.1853 Grimsby parents William & Jane -- occupation railway servant

2 Birth ref John KIRKBY Mountain JQ 1855 Caistor 7a 541 mmn Hockney, baptised 27.5.1855 Clee, as John KIRK Mountain parents William & Jane --occupation Railway servant

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« Reply #28 on: Friday 03 July 20 13:46 BST (UK) »
Thanks John.
No, didn't have those. Explains the big gap between her sisters and Elizabeth. Must have died as children - will check.
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« Reply #29 on: Friday 03 July 20 14:09 BST (UK) »
Eliza Ann reg Caistor died Dec qtr 1854

John Kirkby reg Caistor died Dec 1855

looks like no registration for these 2 little ones either

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« Reply #30 on: Friday 03 July 20 14:10 BST (UK) »
RW
Have you by any chance traced the Mountain family from Lincs?

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
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« Reply #31 on: Friday 03 July 20 14:30 BST (UK) »
Eliza Ann reg Caistor died Dec qtr 1854

John Kirkby reg Caistor died Dec 1855

looks like no registration for these 2 little ones either

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Birth registrations given louisa maud.

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« Reply #32 on: Friday 03 July 20 14:35 BST (UK) »
RW
Have you by any chance traced the Mountain family from Lincs?

Louisa Maud

I've tracked the two sisters. And got in touch with a present-day Sarjantson, who doesn't know about Elizabeth.

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« Reply #33 on: Friday 03 July 20 14:37 BST (UK) »
It never ceases to amaze me re coincidence in family history research. Interesting article dated 9th November 1929 re the death of one William Mountain aged 60 Station Master at Skegness. Must admit I wondered for a moment if he may have been a son of William & Jane as timescales would have fitted.

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« Reply #34 on: Friday 03 July 20 15:00 BST (UK) »
One more birth to fill in another wee gap.

John William Mountain ref mq 1857 Caistor 7a 570 mmn Hockney. Died aged 1 the following year.

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« Reply #35 on: Thursday 30 July 20 10:34 BST (UK) »
Further to my post regarding Elizabeth's brother, George, and whether there would be any clues in his Will - I failed to notice this was an "Administration", so there is no Will.

However, I did obtain a possible death certificate (one of two for Elizabeth Allum of about the right age) and that came yesterday (after only ordering on Tuesday, incidentally, from GRO - two days, fastest so far).

Elizabeth Allum died on 11 December 1927 at 12 Exmoor Street (Kensington, I assume, as that is the Registry), which I think is the St Marylebone Hospital.  She is "Widow of - Allum, occupation unknown" - so that fits with all the mystery and no-one knowing who she was, ie no family around her.  She lived at 3 Daventry Street, NW1 - as did the informant "R Holland".  The informant's name is followed by "Causing the body to be buried".  Is this a standard wording?  Could R Holland have been a landlord, perhaps?  Who didn't know anyone else to deal with Elizabeth's burial?  I haven't found an "R Holland" at 3 Daventry Street on the 1911 or 1939 records, and wondered if there is another way to find him/her?

Many thanks for any pointers and thoughts on the "Causing the body to be buried" comment, particularly by someone who lived at the same address (not a solicitor, or other "official", etc).