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Re: Bigamy?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 02 July 20 09:40 BST (UK) »
..another update.

I've found Elizabeth Mountain marrying (again!) in 1901, to William Allum, in Paddington - she gives her father's details as "William Mountain - Station Master".  And ten years later, her birthplace on the 1911 Census confirms she is Elizabeth Mountain from Grimsby.  Incidentally, William and Elizabeth Allum are on the 1901 Census together, although they don't marry until July 1901.

However, she gives her name on marriage in 1901 as "Elizabeth Pearce, Widow" - so I'm now looking for a fourth marriage (!) to Mr Pearce - presumably sometime between 1891 and 1901.

I have a burial record at St Marylebone, Westminster, of Elizabeth Allum from 11 December 1927, age 65, but no further detail.

Any help with this Pearce marriage (if there was one) and the death would be much appreciated.

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Re: Bigamy?
« Reply #10 on: Friday 03 July 20 08:54 BST (UK) »
Just a note on the presumption of death comment, my understanding is that death cannot just be assumed after 7 years but there has to be an actual presumption of death action in Court for an actual declaration/finding to be made.
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Re: Bigamy?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 03 July 20 09:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks Caroline.
Bearing in mind that I now know it was David's first wife, who was commiting bigamy by marrying David, and she was still very much alive when David married again, would David had had to have had that first, bigamous, marriage annulled?
I can't find any court reporting on this in the BNA.
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Re: Bigamy?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 03 July 20 09:13 BST (UK) »
I have no idea if this is of any use to you but found the following, only 1 I can find listed


1892 J qtr  Leicester
Benjamin Pearce
to
Elizabeth Mountain
ref 7a 521


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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London


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Re: Bigamy?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 03 July 20 10:13 BST (UK) »
The marriage in Leicester 1892, Elizabeth is aged 38, spinster, father George Mountain occ Nurseryman

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Re: Bigamy?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 03 July 20 10:19 BST (UK) »
Thank you John, that rules that one out

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Bigamy?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 03 July 20 10:23 BST (UK) »
"If I am right about Elizabeth Mountain being the one born in Lincolnshire, c.1860, then she married Joe Athey in 1879 and had a daughter, Edith Jane Athey. "

a later census stated no children for Elizabeth, did that mean no children between her and Mr Allum?

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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« Reply #16 on: Friday 03 July 20 10:50 BST (UK) »
Checked 1861 for Elizabeth and checked 2 births shown, both came up with Hockney for MMN, father's occ in 1861 "signal man" so I asked all census for William Mountain firstly signal man  and then station master and it only came up with 1881 William , so I suppose from this unless he changed his occupation then you are correct

Louisa Maud
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Bigamy?
« Reply #17 on: Friday 03 July 20 10:54 BST (UK) »
Is anyone able to read the attached link re newspaper article for Joe Athey to see details of marriage announcement.

John

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPCK-VR3R