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Re: Monaghan
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 01:11 BST (UK) »
From the way that 1919 birth cert is written up, it would imply parents William and Margaret were not married at the time of this Sarah's birth.

If they had been married, you would expect to see the date and place of parents' marriage. Also, mother's details would normally be written as: Margaret Monaghan, maiden name (M. S.) McKenna.

I cannot see a marriage for a couple with these names on Scotlands People.

Monica

It definitely seems so! I didn't include the rest of the birth record of other families but this was the only one on the page like it. I have many questions now, I wonder how things unfolded, also wonder how many siblings she might have had altogether. I will have to patiently wait for the 1921 census for some insight.

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Re: Monaghan
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 09:05 BST (UK) »
Some more info about the McKenna's that you may find useful later.

James Bow McKenna (Miner) married Maggie (Orr), 1893 in Dunfermline.

Their daughter, Maggie Orr McKenna (b. 1906) married George Stewart, age 36,(Farm Worker), 1933, Toryburn.
Her address was Grove Cottage, Newmills

Maggie died, age 71, in Elgin, 1978
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Maggie's mother died 1935, age 63, in Dunfermline

James Bow McKenna died in Birse, Aberdeenshire, age 76, 1945

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Re: Monaghan
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 09:42 BST (UK) »
The Maggie McKenna,  b 1906, would only have been aged 13 in 1919. If it was to be the mother Margaret,  her maiden name would need to be McKenna as she shows as married in the 1911 census you found.

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Re: Monaghan
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 10:36 BST (UK) »
More info about the Monaghan's

The William Alexander Monaghan from the 1911 census in Cowdenbeath was the son of Wallace Monaghan & Elizabeth Orr.
Both Wallace and his sons were miners. Wallace was originally from Riccarton in Ayrshire but mining took the family to many parts of the country including Dalserf in Lanarkshire, where William was born in 1897.
Wallace married Elizabeth Orr, 1887, Dreghorn.

On the 1911 census, he has 7 sons & 1 daughter.

There is a death of a William Alexander Monaghan, born 28 Sept 1897, 2nd Q 1984 in Newcastle upon Tyne. (Date confirmed on William's birth cert)



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Re: Monaghan
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 11:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Monica.

I know she was 13 but it is still possible. Unlikely to be her mother.

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Re: Monaghan
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 14:24 BST (UK) »
We have learnt to think that anything is possible, Kloumann  ;)

What a lot of work you have done on William Monaghan! Looks good for him  :)

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Re: Monaghan
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 17:10 BST (UK) »
Photo link to Forthview Terrace in Newmills

https://espc.com/property/80-forthview-terrace-newmills-dunfermline-ky12-8sx/35504459

Hi Monica,

Searched for other possible Maggie McKenna's without success.

Will it be 13 or 47. Need 1921 census to find out.


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Re: Monaghan
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 21:03 BST (UK) »
A few edits on the possible William Monaghan above. William who married Sarah in Gateshead in 1921 was actually a Gateshead boy. Born on 4 March 1899, he died in Gateshead in January 1965. The middle initial of 'A' was for Andrew.

William Alexander Monaghan that you have, son of Wallace and Elizabeth (Orr) married in Cowdenbeath in September 1922 to a Margaret Nicol Henderson, daughter of a James Henderson, coal miner, and Annie Brown. Both gave a Cowdenbeath address at the time of their marriage. William aged 24 and Margaret aged 21.

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Re: Monaghan
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 21:56 BST (UK) »
Thats great Monica. I will modify my post.