The elusive James Taylor of Hunslet

[LizzieL]

James Taylor married Sarah White on 18 April 1881 by Banns at St Peter's Leeds. Both gave their age as 20.
James Taylor was a miner, address Cavalier Street, father's name James Taylor also a miner.
Sarah White address Mill Street, father James White, Hackle Maker.

Given that the marriage was a few days after census day, I was surprised that there was no sign of either of them at the given addresses.

the best I have found for James is an address in Hillidge rd, Leeds. That James is 18, a miner b Hunslet with father James,  labourer recently coal miner, age 62, b Beeston, Yorks, married but no wife with him.

Sarah is at Varley Square Hunslet with her widowed sister Rachael Long. Sarah is age 20 b Scotland.
Rachael has two sons surname Twigg and a daughter surname Long. Also in the house is Sarah's illegitimate son, Simpson Dixon White. I am certain this is the correct Sarah, because Simpson is with her on later censuses after she has married James

I have James and Sarah on 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses.
James is consistently born in Hunslet and aged 29, 39 and 49 respectively. I would therefore have expected him to be stated as 19 not 18 in 1881.

I am not 100% convinced I have the right James in 1881, can anyone find a better match, please.

[osprey]

there seem to be other James Taylors around, even one with fathers also called James, but not another one who is a miner with a father also a miner.
Possible James just made an error with his son's age. 

I think his birth reg is sept qtr 1861 Hunslet vol 9b pg 280 mmn Firth

Marriage reg for parents James Taylor sept qtr 1854 Leeds vol 9b pg 325 with Harriet Firth on the same page
1861 census 43 Vine St RG9/3369 folio 135 pg 32
James Taylor head mar 40 coal miner b. Beeston
Harriet wife 29 housekeeper b. Wortley

[BumbleB]

Not sure:

17 July 1854 - St Peter, Leeds
James Taylor, 30, widower, Miner of Hunslet.  Father:  James, Smith
Harriet Firth, 26, spinster of Hunslet.  No father named

Both made their mark.

[osprey]

the James born Beeston is a widower in 1851, no children with him. HO107/2317 folio 59 pg 8.

[LizzieL]

Thank you both, that is looking like the right James and his father James, and his father James as well.

James first marriage could be to Sarah Thomas, 5 June 1843 at Leeds. His father is James Taylor - smith. Hers is Robert Thomas - miner.Both full age and both of Beeston

[jomcd967]

Have you discounted this one....
RG11/4544/158/17 Filey Street Morley
James Taylor, w, 53, coal miner, b. Southfield Yorks
Thomas Taylor, son, 24, coal miner, ditto
Elizabeth Taylor, dau, 20, wooden weaver, ditto
James Taylor, son, 18, coal miner, ditto
William Taylor, son, 27, coal miner, ditto

Jo 

[LizzieL]

Thank you, but the James I'm looking for is consistent about being born in Hunslet. Looking at the image it looks like the birthplace for this Taylor family was in Derbyshire. It looks like South...field (as one word with two or three letters in the gap). I wonder if it might be South Wingfield (spelt here as Southwinfield)

[wivenhoe]

Marriage certificate, 1881.....what names do you see for witnesses.

[LizzieL]

John Pemberton and Rachel Scaife. I did find a likely Rachel Scaife in the area. Age 20. Possibly a friend of Sarah's - couldn't find a connection as a relative