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Names scamp/Matthews
« on: Wednesday 22 April 20 14:44 BST (UK) »
I wonder if anyone can help me.  On searching my family tree of the name Matthews in Kent, i have come across the surname Scamp being used along side Matthews.  Could anyone please tell me what the connection with these two names is? My family had a William Matthews who married a Louisa in 1872 but i also see that a William Scamp married a Louisa in 1872 and in both entries, the list of children are nearly the same.

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Re: Names scamp/Matthews
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 22 April 20 20:43 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat!  ;D

I'm not seeing either marriage on FreeBMD?
Where did the information come from?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Names scamp/Matthews
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 22 April 20 20:45 BST (UK) »
Greetings, and a warm welcome to Rootschat.

No answers yet, just some questions to help us search:
Where does your information come from (online trees, BMD records, censuses, or other)?
Do you know when and where William was born?  Or do you have the marriage cert which should name his father?

The surname SCAMP seems to occur mainly in Devon, with some cropping up in Kent up to the 1870s.

Philip

Please help me to help you by citing sources for information.

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Re: Names scamp/Matthews
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 22 April 20 21:58 BST (UK) »
Amat, welcome from me too  :)

Just for info here, this is the family in 1881?

William Matherson 25 labourer b. Poplar, Middlesex
Louisa Matherson 27 machinist
Emma Matherson 5
Lavina Matherson 3
William Matherson 1

Address: 26 Duke St, Deptford, Kent

Everyone showing as born in Deptford apart from William Snr.

Lavinia Mercedes Matthewson, birth showing in 2nd Qrt 1878 in Greenwich (ref 1d   897). On this birth, mother Louisa's maiden name showing as Cooper.

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Re: Names scamp/Matthews
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 April 20 22:07 BST (UK) »
Another guess here

1881 944/34/15
Living in a tent, Charing, Kent

Henry Lee   60 yrs grinder of cutlery, b Dover
Louisa Scamp daughter married 24 yrs  b Greenhithe
William Scamp son in law 20 yrs birth unknown
Leonard Lee son 19 yrs b Gravesend
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Re: Names scamp/Matthews
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 April 20 22:24 BST (UK) »
I was wondering where the Scamp couple were, Heywood!

The marriage of William George Matthewson and Louisa Cooper took place on 22 Nov 1875 at St John the Evangelist, Walworth, Southwark. William's father shows as  James Matthewson, a mariner. Louisa's father is given as Thomas James Cooper, labourer.

For comparison with any Scamp children, the Matthewson children in the houshold for 1891 show as:

William George Mathewson 35
Louisa Mathewson 37
Lavinia Mathewson 13
William James Mathewson 11
Rebecca Mathewson 7
Walter Mathewson 3
Henrietta Mathewson 11 months

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Re: Names scamp/Matthews
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 April 20 22:27 BST (UK) »
Then there is this family

1881 950/47/15
New England, Under a Tent, Amersham, Kent

William Mathews 30 yrs Cutter and Brazier b Chatham
Clara Ann Mathews 6 yrs b Deal
Oliver Mathews   4 yrs b Herne Bay
Betsy Mathews 2 yrs b Boxley
George Mathews 1 yr b Luton, Kent

I can see some of the children with mmn Lee
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Re: Names scamp/Matthews
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 22 April 20 22:47 BST (UK) »
Some of the above children then seem to be in this family and probably explains Amat’s difficulties

1891 633/89

William Lea 43 yrs Hawker b Canterbury
Louisa Lea   35 yrs b Greenhithe
Susan Lea   17 yrs b Deal
Oliver Lea   15 yrs b Herne Bay
Betsy Lea   13 yrs b Maidstone
George Lea 11 yrs b Luton
Sarah Lea   9 yrs b Bluebell Hill
Cenemety Lea 7 yrs b Tunbridge Wells
William Lea 3 yrs b Chalk
Flora Lea 1 yr b Melton
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Re: Names scamp/Matthews
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 23 April 20 00:01 BST (UK) »
William Scamp/Lee/Matthews, 1851, Kent, is in more than 90 trees on Ancestry.  Suggest you have a look at some of those to see where it leads you.

Have a look on GRO for children Scamp/Lee to see what families match up.