Author Topic: Can't find a butler during coronavirus lockdown. Can anyone else find him?  (Read 769 times)

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Re: Can't find a butler during coronavirus lockdown. Can anyone else find him?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 24 April 20 19:33 BST (UK) »
Plot thickens...
Margaret Mary Glass, daughter of Kenneth Glass & Mary, married 1886 Frederick Kaltenback and had 4 children between 1886-1898. Family appear together in records at the same time 'my' Mary Gillmore and her children are alive so this Margaret Mary Glass isn't one I'm looking for  :-\
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Re: Can't find a butler during coronavirus lockdown. Can anyone else find him?
« Reply #10 on: Friday 24 April 20 20:43 BST (UK) »
there are 2 birth registrations
Mary Margaret Glass dec qtr 1853 St James Westminster vol 1a pg 287 mmn Gillmore
She was baptised as Mary Margaret Gilmore Glass  in St Luke's, Westminster 14 Jan 1855 daughter of Kenneth & Mary Ann 82 Bennet St, dob noted as 20 Sept 1854 although birth reg makes her a year older.
Margaret Mary Glass sept qtr 1860 St James vol 1a pg 317 mmn Gilmore
She was baptised Margaret Mary Glass in the same church 20 Aug 1871 same parents 11 Carlisle St Soho dob 20 July 1860

1861 census
St James Westminster RG9/61 folio 83 pg 74
Kenneth Glass head mar 43 brass finisher b. Ireland
Mary Ann wife 34 b. London
Mary M dau 7 b. St James
Margaret M dau 9  months b. St James

so looks like sisters

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Can't find a butler during coronavirus lockdown. Can anyone else find him?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 24 April 20 21:16 BST (UK) »
Ah... got confused by Mary Margaret and Margaret Mary.

Am wondering if Harry Gillmore, the butler, was made up  :-\
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Re: Can't find a butler during coronavirus lockdown. Can anyone else find him?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 25 April 20 15:32 BST (UK) »
it's not beyond the realms of possibility is it? First name of the children's father was Harry and she used her mother's maiden name. I haven't spotted a marriage for Kenneth Glass & Mary Ann Gilmore as yet...

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb