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Margaret Keating Acheson
« on: Saturday 25 April 20 23:07 BST (UK) »
I am looking to confirm and find the parents of Margaret Ann Keating who married Frederick I. Acheson. They lived in San Diego, California. From a census it says they married about 1889.
They had 4 children - Ira, Helen, Thomas and Lucina.
I am only interested in her parents and back.

There is a tentative "ancestry hint" death of 25 May 1942 San Diego
There is also a tentative birth hint of 31 Jul 1867. Parents Patrick Keating and Ellen Carroll.

I am looking to discover where either Patrick Keating or his wife Ellen Carroll originally came from in Ireland. I strongly presume one of them (or their parents) came from somewhere around Clonmel, Tipperary.

Any hints welcome. Thank you very much
Cleary - Clonmel / Ardgeeha / Chancellorstown / Garryntemple---------------O' Donnell - Clerihan------------McGrath - Powerstown---------------Cullinan - Scrothea, Clonmel----------------Flemming - Clerihan----------------Brien - Monkstown----------------Dunne - Poulnagunoge  / Gladstone St, Clonmel-------------Dunn - New York------------O' Neill - Kilsheelan

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Re: Margaret Keating Acheson
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 25 April 20 23:46 BST (UK) »

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Re: Margaret Keating Acheson
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 April 20 00:31 BST (UK) »
Diocese of Springfield, Illinois,  St Peter and Paul, Collinsville, Illinois.

1868
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indexed in the margin as Margaritha Keating

9th day of August I baptized Margaret Anna born 31 July of the marriage of Patrick Keiten/Katen and Eleanor Carroll. Sponsors were Eleanora Hins and Joseph Hins

Katen = Keating for sure, I've worked on a Keating family. Hins probably = Hines.

edited:
It sounds like you might have a subscription to ancestry. here is the link to that record.
https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=61682&h=19252&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=5180


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Re: Margaret Keating Acheson
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 April 20 00:45 BST (UK) »
Margaret's 1900 census said her parents were born in Illinois. But census information is often wrong for parents' birthplaces.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9KM-VKX

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Re: Margaret Keating Acheson
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 26 April 20 01:15 BST (UK) »

Illinois, Marriage Index, 1860-1920
Name:    Patrick Keating
Gender:    Male
Marriage Date:    9 Jan 1867
Marriage Place:    Madison, Illinois, USA
Spouse Name:    Ellen Carroll
Spouse Gender:    Female


https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=60984&h=352185&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=fTz2303&_phstart=successSource

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Illinois, Roman Catholic Diocese of Springfield Sacramental Records, 1853-1975
Deaths
William Keating, age 88
"Filius vel Filia" Patrick Keating, Elen Carroll

in Collinsville, died 7 April 1961, buried 11 April 1961, Sts Peter and Paul.


https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61682&h=60146901&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=fTz2304&_phstart=successSource

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but where are they on the censuses?

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Re: Margaret Keating Acheson
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 26 April 20 01:31 BST (UK) »
William Keating's obit is here - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_r4NurBsYJvNnZHbjVRWEE3OUk  It lists his parents as Patrick & Elem Keating and his sisters who predeceased him as Mrs. Mary Atachen and Mrs. Mary Noonen.  Perhaps the informant was a bad speller, or maybe mom really was Elem?

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Re: Margaret Keating Acheson
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 26 April 20 01:54 BST (UK) »
The family appears to be transcribed as Ceating or Craling in the 1870 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6HC-ZXC

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Re: Margaret Keating Acheson
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 26 April 20 03:09 BST (UK) »
Collinsville, Edwardsville & Alton are all in Madison County, Illinois.

Here is Margaret's obit in 1942.

San Diego Union
San Diego, California
May 28, 1942

Obit: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pd3/

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Something must have happened to Ellen's husband. She is remarried in 1880 census to a John Daly/Daley. The 2 oldest children (William & Margaret) appear to hers from Keating marriage, but the daughter Mary appears to a daughter from her marriage to John Daly. All the children are listed with last name Daly.

1880 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXVG-RLC

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Something must have happened between 1880-1883. The 3 children were appointed a guardian

Alton Telegraph
Alton, Illinois
Tuesday, December 18, 1883 - Page 4

Clip: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/49569921/alton-telegraph/

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Edit to add-

This appears to be the marriage of Ellen to John Daley in 1879.
It appears Ellen's given name was "Helena".

Marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK9L-SXBH




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Re: Margaret Keating Acheson
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 26 April 20 09:54 BST (UK) »
This is all great. Thank you.
So it looks like Ellen Carroll parents were James Carroll and Helen Henderden? and Ellen was born in Manchester, England. A very specific detail so must be correct.

But what about her husband Patrick Keating parentage? He must be the link back to Ireland
Cleary - Clonmel / Ardgeeha / Chancellorstown / Garryntemple---------------O' Donnell - Clerihan------------McGrath - Powerstown---------------Cullinan - Scrothea, Clonmel----------------Flemming - Clerihan----------------Brien - Monkstown----------------Dunne - Poulnagunoge  / Gladstone St, Clonmel-------------Dunn - New York------------O' Neill - Kilsheelan