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Re: I wonder what happened to Charles Chaplin and Beatrice Buchanan?
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 28 April 20 18:03 BST (UK) »
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Because Samuel was not named as the father on the birth certificate - he space for the father's name is blank.
Yes but that doesn't mean he wasn't the father. 
I think it does.

In Scots law the husband of a married woman is presumed to be the father of a child unless the mother declares otherwise. The Registrar seems to have accepted her statement that she was a widow, so the default would have been to show Samuel as the father unless it was obvious he could not be because he had died long enough before the birth for the child not to be his.
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Re: I wonder what happened to Charles Chaplin and Beatrice Buchanan?
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 28 April 20 20:04 BST (UK) »
- what happened to Charles Chaplin?
- if he died, who is the Charles Chaplin in the workhouse?

Re the Charles in the workhouse (whoever he was!)
Possibly his last admission to Bromley House, Stepney Union, down the page, admitted 18 April 1898, discharged 29 Nov 1898
Is a dittoed labourer on this
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1J-S9V9-H?i=719&cat=1249964

On image 709, likely first appearance of Charles in Stepney, also admitted 18 April, in 1896. Is Chaplain here. A baker.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1J-S9KC-4?i=708&cat=1249964

So possible death might be   
Sep 1899 Poplar 1c 431
Chaplain, Charles   
age 68

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Sub-district for that death Bromley.
Likely it was registered near the end of July.

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Re: I wonder what happened to Charles Chaplin and Beatrice Buchanan?
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 28 April 20 20:30 BST (UK) »
That last bit helped with a burial search
Buried at City of London Cemetery, 27 July 1899
Charles Chaplain
residence Sick Asylum
age 68
(last entry on page)
https://col-burialregisters.uk/archive/burial-registers-january-1890-to-december-1899/register-054/1082604


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Re: I wonder what happened to Charles Chaplin and Beatrice Buchanan?
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 28 April 20 20:57 BST (UK) »
There is this man

1871 147/35/27
4 Little Newport Street Soho

Charles Chapman widower 38 yrs Baker Journeyman  b Chelmsford
Living in a house with other bakers.


1881 586/24/42
102 York Road, Lambeth

Charles Chapman widower 48 yrs Baker b Chelmsford
Philipp Gross 30 yrs Baker b Prussia
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Re: I wonder what happened to Charles Chaplin and Beatrice Buchanan?
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 28 April 20 21:05 BST (UK) »
Sorry,
I donít think it is him after all. I couldn't find Chapman pre 1861 but there is a marriage for Charles Chapman, Baker with a father John Chapman, Baker in 1867, Marylebone.
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Re: I wonder what happened to Charles Chaplin and Beatrice Buchanan?
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 28 April 20 21:14 BST (UK) »
Thank you both.

Mea culpa! I seem to have omitted to mention that Charles Chaplin was a widower when he married Beatrice Buchanan, so maybe there's something in that Charles Chapman.
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