Help, marriage 1888 to early 1890, Drogheda, John Tiernan, Mary Anne Markey

[Wexflyer]

Does it say which priest officiated?

No note as to officiant. RootsIreland usually note this if in the original.

Thinking of the original, in an unusual case like this I would certainly wish to see or get a copy of the original record.

[Sinann]

Does it say which priest officiated?

No note as to officiant. RootsIreland usually note this if in the original.

Thinking of the original, in an unusual case like this I would certainly wish to see or get a copy of the original record.

Agree, it sounds quite unorthodox.

[dathai]

Worth following up ?
James Carroll to Jane Tiernan age 21 dtr Thomas decd of The Dale at St Mary's ,Oct 1884
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1884/10917/5988497.pdf

found 1 daughter Mary Ellen 1886 The Marsh
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02603/1961612.pdf

not obvious to me on census

[Foreversearchingforanswer]

Worth following up ?

Definately, will give me something to do today. Many thanks to everyone who has looked at this. It's invaluable.

If the workhouse is in The Dales, possibly thats where John was in 1889.

As it seems the priest would send the certificate over the the registrar, it could be ommiting the fathers names on the register as well, if it was ever completed.

[Foreversearchingforanswer]

Any explanation as to why 5 children, born between 1855 and 1865 were baptised in various months of 1881 ?  The births are recorded in the church register.

Example

Name   
John Tiernan
Mother   
Elizabeth Townly
Father   
James Tiernan
Other   
John Boyle
Sponsor Witness 2   
Anne Kiernan
Birth   
14/11/1862 Duleek Meath Ireland
Baptism   
16/11/1881

and

Name   
Bridget Tiernan
Mother   
Elizabeht Townly
Father   
James Tiernan
Other   
Andrew Townly
Sponsor Witness 2   
Anne Darby
Birth   
12/04/1855 Duleek Meath Ireland
Baptism   
15/04/1881

[Sinann]

Where did you find those baptisms?

[jc26red]

I think there may have been an issue with St Mary’s marriages not being registered.

My husband’s great grandparents were also married at St Marys Drogheda in Jan 1871. We found the parish records after a while but no civil record.  I even went to Dublin to check through the indexes.

[Foreversearchingforanswer]

Where did you find those baptisms?

https://www.ancestrylibraryedition.co.uk/search/collections/2195/?name=john_tiernan

"Ireland, Selections of Catholic Parish Baptisms, 1742-1881"

link on ancestry, so I haven't seen the source, which is always bad.

All I know about the possible parents to this person is she died in 1871 at Bellewstown, Meath, Ireland and left her possessions to her husband.

Thought process here is go through all likely candidates and eliminate them one by one, whats left needs further investigation. I have seen a few different people down as his father, and some indication he lived to 1929 after presumably leaving his wife, travelling to the west of Ireland alone and dying there, 24 years after his death.

On the 1901 census he put all the correct ages against his wife and children, which leads to 1862 or 1863 for him, if he did his correctly as well. Death certificate has an about 40 years' date.

[jc26red]

Findmypast has images to Catholic Baptisms and links to the NLI films.

https://registers.nli.ie/