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Help to find marriage
« on: Wednesday 29 April 20 16:53 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I am trying to find the marriage between -

Hannah Elizabeth Palmer (abt 1874 Little Melton, Norfolk)
George Argent (abt 1865 Tilbury, essex)

I have them on the 1891 census living with her parents in Islington, though they are from Norfolk originally. So I expect the marriage to be recent to then.
I have them again on 1901 census in Hampstead with their children, although she goes by Elizabeth on that not Hannah

She later re marries after George dies, her second marriage is easy to find but not her marriage to George.

I want to send for the marriage certificate as I need to know the name of Georges father, so I have any hope of tracing the Argent line.

Thank you,
Ju1
Armitage, Slaithwaite, huddersfield.
Calvert, Thornton, Bradford.
Pickles, Thornton, Bradford.
Rawlings, Somerset.
Clay, Slaithwaite, Huddersfield.
Clayton, Preston, Lanc's
Croston, Preston, Lanc's
Crossley, Preston, Lanc's
Jackson, Preston, Lanc's
Woods poss Preston
Moses, Monmouthshire
Foster, Thornton, Bradford.
gallop, Chew Stoke, Somerset
Shaw, Halifax
Holdsworth, Bingley/Keighley

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Re: Help to find marriage
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 April 20 17:25 BST (UK) »
Is she shown as a widow on her second marriage?

When did George die?
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Re: Help to find marriage
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 April 20 17:32 BST (UK) »
I have only seen the entry on the register, it gives her name as Hannah Elizabeth Palmer not her married name of Argent.

She marries Robert Ernest Custance in 1909 in Lincoln

She is with him and her children to George Argent on the 1911 census in Lincoln

I have not found a death for George.
Armitage, Slaithwaite, huddersfield.
Calvert, Thornton, Bradford.
Pickles, Thornton, Bradford.
Rawlings, Somerset.
Clay, Slaithwaite, Huddersfield.
Clayton, Preston, Lanc's
Croston, Preston, Lanc's
Crossley, Preston, Lanc's
Jackson, Preston, Lanc's
Woods poss Preston
Moses, Monmouthshire
Foster, Thornton, Bradford.
gallop, Chew Stoke, Somerset
Shaw, Halifax
Holdsworth, Bingley/Keighley

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Re: Help to find marriage
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 April 20 17:41 BST (UK) »
Reads like there is no "Argent" marriage if the Custance marriage is in her maiden name.

1901 for reference. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X98X-X84

I CANNOT find the 1891?

ARGENT, EDWARD  GEORGE     PALMER   1890  D Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 261
ARGENT, MABEL  EMILY     PALMER   1893  M Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 331
ARGENT, ALICE       PALMER   1895  D Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 07A  Page 165
ARGENT, LILIAN  ELIZABETH     PALMER   1898  J Quarter in HAMPSTEAD  Volume 01A  Page 606
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Re: Help to find marriage
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 April 20 17:53 BST (UK) »
Isn't the second marriage entry a giveaway?? 

She married Custance as Palmer - not Argent

Snap Pauline!!





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Re: Help to find marriage
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 April 20 17:55 BST (UK) »
They have 5 children together.

On Ancestry there are other trees with the family in,they give a different person as George's wife, they state Elizabeth Emily Morley, there is a marriage for them. I thought they may be right but when I searched for the birth of the youngest son Thomas Henry Argent 1904 Langport the GRO shows mothers maiden name as Palmer.
Hence me looking for a marriage.

How do I link the 1891 census entry for you?
Armitage, Slaithwaite, huddersfield.
Calvert, Thornton, Bradford.
Pickles, Thornton, Bradford.
Rawlings, Somerset.
Clay, Slaithwaite, Huddersfield.
Clayton, Preston, Lanc's
Croston, Preston, Lanc's
Crossley, Preston, Lanc's
Jackson, Preston, Lanc's
Woods poss Preston
Moses, Monmouthshire
Foster, Thornton, Bradford.
gallop, Chew Stoke, Somerset
Shaw, Halifax
Holdsworth, Bingley/Keighley

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Re: Help to find marriage
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 29 April 20 17:57 BST (UK) »
1891 entry is no longer relevant - if you buy her 1909 marriage cert it will probably show her as a spinster - not a widow
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 29 April 20 17:59 BST (UK) »
Aha so you are suggesting they never married, she just took his name?

Sorry I have been a bit bit slow here, it never occurred to me!

Thank you
Armitage, Slaithwaite, huddersfield.
Calvert, Thornton, Bradford.
Pickles, Thornton, Bradford.
Rawlings, Somerset.
Clay, Slaithwaite, Huddersfield.
Clayton, Preston, Lanc's
Croston, Preston, Lanc's
Crossley, Preston, Lanc's
Jackson, Preston, Lanc's
Woods poss Preston
Moses, Monmouthshire
Foster, Thornton, Bradford.
gallop, Chew Stoke, Somerset
Shaw, Halifax
Holdsworth, Bingley/Keighley

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Re: Help to find marriage
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 29 April 20 17:59 BST (UK) »
I CANNOT find the 1891?

Pauline, they are at ref RG 12/154 /11 /16
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