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Re: DOBSON. George Edward + Ronald s father ?
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 30 April 20 02:48 BST (UK) »
Re modified to clarify ..(apologies jamjar .)

We don't know much about my uncle George Edward DOBSON
My cousin is going thru his mothers things
So yes marriage cert confirms his name was John.William DOBSON
+ We learnt that in 1956 he was a dining car attendant

If john.william DOBSONhe died in 1933 that would explain why cousin never met him
They were only on Christmas card terms with uncle Ron wife Sylvia and two daughters born around 1960
An old address book had them living  in monseaton ? Tyne + wear NE2 ,9H#

After divorcing my aunt ...Also called Sylvia ) George Edward DOBSON remarried
Don't know second wifes name
She had 2 daughters one born around 1970
Were they from a previous marriage born to a single mum or born after marriage (1 was similar age to cousin) that is a mystery

Would there be an obituary somewhere ? Would probate name the second Mrs DOBSON
I'm sure divorce was after 1974 and before 1978

 Cousin  (.if you get on this site) what was divorce year.
Do you know when George  remarried ?
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Re: DOBSON. George Edward + Ronald s father ?
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 30 April 20 03:19 BST (UK) »
Got it  ;D

His death, just because I’m logged in to GRO and the area may help locate death for 2nd wife:

DOBSON, GEORGE  EDWARD  1931 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q4/1997 in Kidderminster  (5171)  Reg 34D  Entry Number 241

The first female DOBSON death in Kidderminster, working backwards from 2019:

DOBSON, WINIFRED  MARY  1925 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q4/2001 in Kidderminster  (5171)  Reg 48D  Entry Number 192

There are two possible 1970s marriages between a George and Winifred, one in York, George E, and one in Newcastle, George.

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Re: DOBSON. George Edward + Ronald s father ?
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 30 April 20 03:50 BST (UK) »
An old address book had them living  in monseaton ? Tyne + wear NE2 ,9H#

Possible deaths:

DOBSON, RONALD  JOHN  1929 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q2/2010 in North Tyneside  (0541A)  Reg 1A011  Entry Number 503351369

DOBSON, SYLVIA  1927 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q2/2016 in North Tyneside  (054-1A)  Entry Number 513746813

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Re: DOBSON. George Edward + Ronald s father ?
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 30 April 20 07:10 BST (UK) »
Awake again and will have plenty to tell cousin thanks to you all

From Jamjar latest finds

The Kidderminster death is 2001 which seems right era
It's a Winifred Mary DOBSON tho I'm very surprised to see she was older than my uncle

So which of the marriages is the correct Winifred 1973 or 1978.?

I suppose if one of them has middle name Mary on any other record that would be clue .

I wish I could learn how to search on other sites .ancestry is so laborious
Can someone tell me the years of the deaths in Tyneside of Ronald his wife  Sylvia in last  answer please
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Re: DOBSON. George Edward + Ronald s father ?
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 30 April 20 07:21 BST (UK) »
The years are on the second line of each registration: Q2/2010 and Q2/2016.

I only use FreeBMD, FamilySearch and GRO UK. All free and easy to use.

So which of the marriages is the correct Winifred 1973 or 1978
I suppose if one of them has middle name Mary on any other record that would be clue


Could be neither - just two possibilities - as there are two males and two females listed in the same grouping.

The Winifred death could also just be a coincidence. Born 1925, how likely would it be for her to be having a child in 1970? Not impossible of course, but...

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Re: DOBSON. George Edward + Ronald s father ?
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 30 April 20 08:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks jamjar
Didn't expect you to be still on case as thought you are opposite side of world
Did you see that autocorrect had put January when I meant jamjar

You'd think I would know how to interpret refs by now

I know FindMyPast is easy to use but I can't switch between sites to copy any documents I find and my tree is on ancestry !

I'm doing it all from smart phone too so can't have a box within a box .

Anyway you are right about the Winifred s could've neither
Uncle George liked young glamorous women ...so maybe should be looking at totally different age range and name + maybe there was never a marriage!


I have one more clue
Address book has George ed Dobson
1 Somerscales.? Beverly road
Hull E Yorks

It's next to my address in 198Os
So may be the address which aunt used to communicate  after divorce tho he was working I Kidderminster in 90's

I've a feeling he declared himself bankrupt so couldn't pay child support .would there be a record of that
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Re: DOBSON. George Edward + Ronald s father ?
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 30 April 20 08:15 BST (UK) »
I’m in NSW OZ and currently 5:13pm.  ;D

Only the IPad for me, which I find small screen enough.

Hopefully, some folk more familiar with UK records will pop up, for you.

1 Somerscales St, Hull is off Beverley Rd : http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pe2/

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Re: DOBSON. George Edward + Ronald s father ?
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 30 April 20 08:41 BST (UK) »
Your a star ?
Breakfast time for me .
I'm sure cousin will be thrilled with all we've found and maybe will remember something about George's wife/partner & he should have divorce papers or at least the dates
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Re: DOBSON. George Edward + Ronald s father ?
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 30 April 20 11:06 BST (UK) »
Update
George's  wife
Wasn't a winefred
She was known as Ann but may have been called Pamela too

She was younger and worked with.George in the wholesale meat marketing business
Was a qualified hairdresser .
Probably born a decade before Georg around 1940
Daughter born around 1970
Initial B
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