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Help tracing a second marriage and possible divorce
« on: Wednesday 29 April 20 21:27 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to trace a second marriage for my uncle John Simpson Jackson. A few facts about John
  • born in Manchester in Q2 1908
  • Married his first wife Isabella Onley (DOB 23/10/1908) in July 1932
  • Isabella died in 1965
  • He died in Western-super-Mare in 1980

John and Isabella may have got divorced so his second marriage could be before 1965. His second wife was known as Gus but I know that wasn't her given name. 
So I've got a couple of questions
  • How do I find out if Isabella and John were divorced
  • As I have lots of unknowns (e.g.name of spouse, year, place ) how can I narrow down my possible options.  John Jackson is unfortunately very common
I'd be very grateful for any advice


Jackson
Leigh
Brown
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Re: Help tracing a second marriage and possible divorce
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 April 20 21:30 BST (UK) »
Is there an alternative surname for isabella o  the 1939 register?
(Indicating remarriage)

With whom is john Simpson jackson buried?
Or who organised cremation?
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Re: Help tracing a second marriage and possible divorce
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 April 20 21:35 BST (UK) »
In the 1939 register, Isabella is still married to John Jackson. No alternative surname

I'll need to try and find his burial or cremation record. So far I've found the death register index and a probate listing. 
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Re: Help tracing a second marriage and possible divorce
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 April 20 22:59 BST (UK) »
You need to get the death certificate to see who was the informant, and also any information from the probate record.   Did he have any children from his first marriage?

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Presumably it is your tree on Ancestry - have you asked his children about a second wife|?


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Re: Help tracing a second marriage and possible divorce
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 April 20 07:51 BST (UK) »
were you aware that John and Isabella may have had a son 31 months s before they married ?? - www.freebmd.org.uk - births - Jackson - Onley
if so - both would have been 21 - so - why didn't
they marry until over 2 years later ??? - curious
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Re: Help tracing a second marriage and possible divorce
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 30 April 20 08:40 BST (UK) »
Just a tiny correction - death would have been in Weston-Super-Mare, not Western
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Re: Help tracing a second marriage and possible divorce
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 April 20 08:53 BST (UK) »
Looks like John left a will

John Simpson Jackson of 5 Albert Court, Albert Avenue, Weston-Super-Mare, died 26 January 1980, Probate Bristol 23 May 1980 31501

You may like to consider getting the will and see who is mentioned in it.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Help tracing a second marriage and possible divorce
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 April 20 08:55 BST (UK) »
His death registration

Deaths Mar 1980   
JACKSON    JOHN SIMPSON    9MY1908    WESTON    22   1535
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Help tracing a second marriage and possible divorce
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 30 April 20 10:46 BST (UK) »
There is a Q3 1965 Registration for the death of an Isabella Jackson in Manchester as is also shown on the tree in Ancestry.

Thing is I cannot find any Probate for her which to me indicates that they were still married.