Banks in NSW

[majm]

From RChat's NSW Resources Board
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,300394.0.html 

See also:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=369703.0 NSW Resources
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=369921.0 WA Resources
https://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history-research/family-history-search.aspx  Scroll through to see confirmation of the Official Transcription Agents.
https://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history-research/registry-records.aspx  What to expect on civil registrations
https://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Documents/doris-glover-marriage-certificate.pdf sample of a 1924 NSW marriage certificate ...  May I assure you that the 1922 marriage for Frank will have similar headings to that 1924 one. 

JM

[sparrett]

Your search might be further complicated by the offspring of a previous relationship for Mary Ann.

The Funeral notice (Rep #10) mentions sons R REMINGTON, J V REMINGTON and also Miss G REMINGTON.
The men  were Robert and John Victor.

Robert was in NSW and married there. He appear on the Electoral Roll
5189/1923 REMINGTON Robert to ELLIOTT Catherine at TORONTO. There were children ADDING both before and after the marriage

Robert died 5015/1960 REMINGTON Robert Father -Robert mother Mary Annie At NEWCASTLE

John Victor is also on the Electoral Roll to 1949 in NSW and married to Mona Myer WHITE in 1923 (reg 1124)
Marriage notice
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/139351433

He fought in both world wars and the index for ww2 sates he was born in 1896 in NSW
https://nominal-rolls.dva.gov.au/veteran?id=314954&c=WW2

Here is a photo of him in WW1
https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/229136260


Mary Anne was obviously in touch with this part of her family.Clip attached (typist's error in the initial for John)

As to the earlier part of Mary’s life and the father of these Remington children, there is a tree on Ancestry which gives her a birthplace of England.  Not much further information



 

[sparrett]

Well a simple change of spelling reveals  lot.

Putting 2 M's in Remmington shows a few births and gives a mothers maiden name as BUTTERFIELD if it is the same couple.



Here is Robert's birth

Robert  REMMINGTON
1889/30839 Merewether
Father Robert REMMINGTON
Mother Mary A


Here is John's birth

John  V  REMMINGTON 
1894/20805. At Merewether
Father Robert REMMINGTON
Mother Mary A


Frank REMMINGTON 
1898/2555 North Dandalup (WA)
Robert  REMMINGTON
Mary Annie BUTTERFIELD


Mary A REMMINGTON 
1891/21800 at Merewether
Robert  REMMINGTON
Mary A


Alexander S REMMINGTON
1893/22326 at Merewether
Robert  REMMINGTON,
Mary A


Richard REMMINGTON 
1896/1699 at Perth
Robert  REMMINGTON
Mary Anne BUTTERFIELD

 Sue

[sparrett]

1871 census

Mary Ann BUTTERFIELD aged 4 born Lancashire lives with her grandmother Sarah BUTTERFIELD aged 75, her widowed mother Margaret BUTTERFIELD aged 34 and sister Sarah BUTTERFIELD aged 8. And another mamed Sarah CARR aged 32, also the daughter of Sarah senior.

Noteworthy that living next door with parents is one Edmund WRATHALL aged 20

In 1881
 
Mary Ann BUTTERFIELD lives with Edmund L WRATHALL aged 30 and she is listed as his step daughter. He is widowed. Also there is her 17 year old sister Sarah BUTTERFIELD and a child Margaret WRATHALL who is 4 and the daughter of Edmund WRATHALL.

Margaret BUTTERFIELD's  history needs researching to see if her partner was Joseph  to have Mary Ann in order to tie with the parental names on the NSW death certificate of Mary Ann BANKS.

Sue

[sparrett]

Regarding the birth of FRANK REMMINGTON in 1898 in WA, above, you may need to consider that this is FRANK BANKS.
Thus you may have a REMMINGTON paternal line, if I understand your DNA research correctly.
As mentioned
A  certificate or two will confirm a lot or otherwise.
Sue

[majm]

Well found, Sue.

JM

[judb]

Margaret BUTTERFIELD married Edmund WRATHALL in dec qr 1873. She died in 1881.

Deaths Mar qr 1881   
Margaret Wrathall, 45    reg Lunesdale   Vol 8e, p533

Possible birth for their daughter
Sep qr 1876
Margaret Amy WRATHALL, reg Settle    Vol 9a, p9

Margaret Ann (registered as Margaret Amy) WRATHALL I can see her up to 1901 when she is a nurse for the family of Richard SMITH in Lancaster. in 1891 she is with her sister Sarah (married to John HOYLE)

Judith

[judb]

Ah, here's Margaret Amy in 1911

She is married to William Henry WIGNALL, commercial traveller, living in Lancaster with a son William John WIGNALL, 7.

Sadly William is killed in France in 1917.  There's lots more I see about William but he's not your blood relation so I won't continue. 

Judith

[sparrett]

It is possible that Mary Ann remarried in 1909 to William Whitham in Newcastle.

 

NOW,
This lengthy article is very telling, though slightly confusing and requires a good read.

Revealed in essence-
Robert and Mary Ann  REMMINGTON were not married.
She was Mrs BANKS by an English (Lancashire) marriage to John Robinson BANKS.
she met REMMINGTON in 1889
He was abusive
William WHITHAM was a 'boarder"

There was strong suggestion of 'relationship between Mary Ann and WHITHAM.
1901 Western Australia
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/161255862

Sounds like Wiiliam BANKS was not person but she was BANKS and he was William WHITHAM and so possibly some of the children were his ?? FRANK