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Re: Help needed re Oliver Jones
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 05 May 20 14:48 BST (UK) »
Been looking through the bible, not sure if the attachment will help? His birth was put down as Mussy Gurn or Massy Garn in Argoed (Bedwelty) however Google shows no results of that location.

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Re: Help needed re Oliver Jones
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 05 May 20 15:55 BST (UK) »
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102183018
Maes y garn is a property south-west of Argoed of the road Heol Tynewydd
Argoed is on the right edge about halfway up.

Added: Looked on Google Maps - Street View and looks to be still there, but no property name visible. Its position to the road and another property, I feel it is the right property.

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Re: Help needed re Oliver Jones
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 05 May 20 16:48 BST (UK) »
You may want to check to see if this Edgar married in the same church:

Sep 1916 Bedwelty 11a 141
JONES Edgar
CORD Florence M

For info. marriage in The Parish Church Bedwellty 25 Sept 1916
Edgar Jones age 25 Banksman , 35 Alexandra Tredegar, father WILLIAM
Monmouthshire Marriages And Banns

Couldn’t see an online marriage for Oliver & Mary
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Re: Help needed re Oliver Jones
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 05 May 20 16:57 BST (UK) »
The 1901 with father Richard also has a son Edgar who was Olivers twin

George - have you ordered Olivers marriage cert?
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Re: Help needed re Oliver Jones
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 05 May 20 18:08 BST (UK) »
The Oliver who's father is Richard died in 1969.  It isnt the same Oliver.

I have ordered the marriage certificate so it's a waiting game now. 🙂


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Re: Help needed re Oliver Jones
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 05 May 20 18:10 BST (UK) »
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102183018
Maes y garn is a property south-west of Argoed of the road Heol Tynewydd
Argoed is on the right edge about halfway up.

Added: Looked on Google Maps - Street View and looks to be still there, but no property name visible. Its position to the road and another property, I feel it is the right property.

Thanks for that it's so fantastic to see. Where its situated is simply stunning.

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Re: Help needed re Oliver Jones
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 05 May 20 18:24 BST (UK) »
Where are you getting your dates from? 

There is no Oliver Jones death in either 1962 or 1969 with a birthyear of 1891.  The nearest is a David Oliver Jones born 11.5.1890 died 1969 in Wiltshire.  He was b Pontypridd June qtr 1890
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Re: Help needed re Oliver Jones
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 05 May 20 19:17 BST (UK) »
The Oliver Jones you referred to with Richard as a father earlier on in your replies died in 1969. His birth date was 1892.

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Re: Help needed re Oliver Jones
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 05 May 20 22:41 BST (UK) »
Please read my reply above again

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Where are you getting your dates from? 

There is no Oliver Jones death in either 1962 or 1969 with a birthyear of 1891.  The nearest is a David Oliver Jones born 11.5.1890 died 1969 in Wiltshire.  He was b Pontypridd June qtr 1890

If you have found one - please post full details as there is none with an 1892 birthyear either.  The 1890 is the closest

There are 12 Jones deaths in 1969 which have Oliver as either the main or middle name.  Only 2 of the 12 are just Oliver.  One born 1896 and the other 1908

You previously gave 1962 as the death year - only 3 entries and all had middle names
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