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Translation of some newsprint, please
« on: Tuesday 05 May 20 08:54 BST (UK) »
I am doing some research into the inmates of Saltley Reformatory, and came across a very brief report of the crime of one of them in a newspaper, in Welsh. The newsprint in the original is rather fuzzy, so not all the letters are clear. Could someone translate this for me please? Also, it would be useful if I could have a legible version of the Welsh. I attach an image from the newspaper.

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Re: Translation of some newsprint, please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 05 May 20 09:42 BST (UK) »
Thomas Richard Davies, a lad of twelve years of age, admitted stealing 6s from the pocket of Catherine Williams in Aberystwyth, on 25th June last. In spite of youth, this is the prisoner's fifth offence, he was sentenced to 14 days imprisonment and then to be taken to Saltley industrial school for five years.

Did you find this in the Baner ac Amserau Cymru, 12 July 1873?

He's mentioned again, with his father, in the Aberystwyth Observer, 18 Oct 1873.   
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: Translation of some newsprint, please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 05 May 20 09:55 BST (UK) »
Welshnewspapers online

https://newspapers.library.wales

Search for "Thomas Richard Davies" (include the "   " as part of search key) and restrict period to 1872-73 using date slider bar.

Check -
Aberystwyth Observer, 18 Oct 1873, 20 Mar 1873, 5 July 1873
Cambrian News/Merionethshire Standard - 2 separate items for 4 July 1873

S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.


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Re: Translation of some newsprint, please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 05 May 20 10:40 BST (UK) »
The image you posted appears to come from Baner ac Amserau Cymru, 12 July 1873, available on British Newspaper Archive or FindMyPast.
The image available on Welshnewspapers is clearer but I don't think you can download images from this site. Need to use "Snipping Tool" or similar.
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: Translation of some newsprint, please
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 05 May 20 12:41 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the replies - really helpful, and much appreciatedk,

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Re: Translation of some newsprint, please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 05 May 20 12:43 BST (UK) »
Oh, and yes, the image I used did come from Baner ac Amserau Cymru. I subscribe to the British Newspaper Archive and got it from there.

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Re: Translation of some newsprint, please
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 05 May 20 13:46 BST (UK) »
I subscribe to BNA and noticed the difference in quality.

The Aberystwyth Observer, 18 Dec 1869, has an item about Thomas appearing in court as an 8 yr old!
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: Translation of some newsprint, please
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 05 May 20 16:57 BST (UK) »
Crikey! That is young. I'll add that to my information. Many thanks, again.

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Re: Translation of some newsprint, please
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 06 May 20 18:33 BST (UK) »
One last question - young Thomas, after 5 years in Saltley, can you say "the boy done good"?
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.