Unable to find marriage for Robert W Aynsley

[PaulThommo]

I think this is Robert in 1861, but I can’t see a marriage for Henry and Isabella:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7NT-8LX

AYNSLEY, GEORGE  HENRY mmn WALSH 
GRO Reference: 1846  D Quarter in TYNEMOUTH UNION  Volume 25  Page 423

AYNSLEY, SARAH  JANE mmn WALSH 
GRO Reference: 1848  D Quarter in TYNEMOUTH UNION  Volume 25  Page 467

AYNSLEY, ROBERT mmn WALSH 
GRO Reference: 1852  S Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 110

1851 has mother as Ann: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGX4-QBS

I think it may have been a second marriage:

Dec 1859 Newcastle,T 10b 139
ANSLEY Henry
CHAPMAN Isabella Hannah

I can’t see Henry in 1871. Possible death:

AYNSLEY, HENRY  44 
GRO Reference: 1865  M Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 123

Was Ann previously married?

The only marriage I can see:

Sep 1845 South Shields 24 165
ANSLEY Henry
SPOOR/S Ann

Jamjar

Thanks again Jamjar, I had seen the 1861 census for Robert and family and noted the parents names. As the Aynsleys had married into the Frazer family and the Frazer family had married into my family name (Thompson) I was just interested to record his parents names. How far can you spread the family tree? Paul

[Jamjar]

My only query about Robert (snr) death in 1892 is that the probate the beneficiary's name was Sarah Ward and not any members of his married family.

I do believe that Sarah Ward is the Sarah Walsh, sister of Ann, shown in the 1851 census.

The 1871 as you mentioned:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB8C-TTF

1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q271-VPBK

Mar 1853 Tynemouth 10b 216
LAMB George Henry
WALSH Sarah
1861: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7XD-JJG
Death: LAMB, GEORGE  HENRY 46 
GRO Reference: 1861  S Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS UNION  Volume 10A  Page 282


Sep 1866 S.Shields 10a 687
WARD Cuthbert
LAMB Sarah

Mar 1847 Tynemouth 25 373
WARD Cuthbert
TAYLOR Margaret

LAMB, GEORGE  HENRY mm WALSH 
GRO Reference: 1856  M Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 147

LAMB, MARY  ANN mmn WELSH 
GRO Reference: 1858  D Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 128

WARD, ALFRED  ERNEST mmn WALSH 
GRO Reference: 1869  M Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS  Volume 10A  Page 675

WARD, ETHEL SARAH ANNIE mmn WALSH 
GRO Reference: 1876  S Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS  Volume 10A  Page 743

WARD, SARAH mmn TAYLOR 
GRO Reference: 1850  M Quarter in TYNEMOUTH UNION  Volume 25  Page 466

WARD, MARGARET  TAYLOR mmn TAYLOR 
GRO Reference: 1855  D Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 113

WARD, CUTHBERT mmn TYLER 
GRO Reference: 1857  D Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10A  Page 121


Jamjar

[PaulThommo]

Hi Jamjar,
Started ploughing through all the information you have provided for me. Thank you so much, really appreciate it.
Paul

[PaulThommo]

I’m in Central West NSW, and have recovered from the virus, which I picked up during a grocery run to WAGGA.

You have her dying in 1882, but she is still alive in 1891 census living with father and also Hannah Frazer in Salmon Street, S/S.

I don’t have anyone dying in 1882.

The death of Robert Walsh Aynsley in 1942 would be the son, who was born in 1879

Yes, that is why his death is under his birth.

Have you got a copy of the probate? I wonder if it is a transcription error and he actually died in Brazil. From FamilySearch: Durham, Brazil, United Kingdom

I see no UK death registration for him.

Robert and Margaret’s marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGV8-7WPR

Jamjar

Hello Jamjar,
Have you got a copy of the probate? I wonder if it is a transcription error and he actually died in Brazil. From FamilySearch: Durham, Brazil, United Kingdom
I checked up on the probate and he died in Santos, Brazil on 6 Nov 1892, living at 1 Salmon St. South Shields. He was classified as an Engineer and the 1881 census has his occupation as a 'Sea going engineer' so obviously working on board a ship when he died (aged 40). It would be interesting to find out how he died, on board or on shore? Visions pop up of him being involved in a bar room brawl, but maybe i have been watching too many old movies!! Paul

[Tickettyboo]

BT 334 Deaths at Sea 1891-1972 (available on FindMyPast - maybe other sites too I don't know)
Reported to Registrar General England
AYNSLEY, Robert Walsh
Male
age 39 or 40
First Engineer
Birthplace North Shields
Last Place of Abode South Shields
Cause  Yellow Fever
Date of Death  06.11.92
Place of Death Santos Hospital
Name of Ship S.S. Henrietta H.
Official No 92, 854
Port of Registry Newcastle

Boo

[PaulThommo]

BT 334 Deaths at Sea 1891-1972 (available on FindMyPast - maybe other sites too I don't know)
Reported to Registrar General England
AYNSLEY, Robert Walsh
Male
age 39 or 40
First Engineer
Birthplace North Shields
Last Place of Abode South Shields
Cause  Yellow Fever
Date of Death  06.11.92
Place of Death Santos Hospital
Name of Ship S.S. Henrietta H.
Official No 92, 854
Port of Registry Newcastle

Boo

Hello Boo, many many thanks for finding the final piece of the puzzle. yellow fever is not a nice illness and in those days certain death. I think in those days he would have been buried there (Santos) and not transported back to his hometown due to length of travel time. He left his money to a Sarah Ward (widow) totalling 676 pounds. From the information Jamjar obtained for me it looks as though Sarah Ward was the sister of his mother and in the 1871 census both Robert & his sister Sarah were living with Sarah Ward and family in South Shields after the death of their parents, so I presume she would have taken on the responsibility of looking after his 3 children after his and his wife's death (who died in 1889) as the children were only 16/13 & 10.
Once again thank you for finding the information for me, I appreciate it. Paul

[Tickettyboo]

Though the deaths at sea index and the death announcement below have his ships name as Henrietta H. the clip ships database has the ship name as Henriette H.
https://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsnum?officialnumber=92854&submit=search


Shields Daily Gazette 11 Nov 1892
page 1 col 1

DEATHS

At Santos S.A. on the 7th inst. Robert Walsh Aynsley, youngest son of the late Henry Aynsley, of North Shields, and chief engineer of the s.s. Henrietta H of Newcastle, aged 40.

Boo

[PaulThommo]

Though the deaths at sea index and the death announcement below have his ships name as Henrietta H. the clip ships database has the ship name as Henriette H.
https://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsnum?officialnumber=92854&submit=search


Shields Daily Gazette 11 Nov 1892
page 1 col 1

DEATHS

At Santos S.A. on the 7th inst. Robert Walsh Aynsley, youngest son of the late Henry Aynsley, of North Shields, and chief engineer of the s.s. Henrietta H of Newcastle, aged 40.

Boo

Once again Boo, many thanks for finding information for me. Paul