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Offline bronnie

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Trying to find Ellen Jenkins pre 1871
« on: Saturday 09 May 20 09:49 BST (UK) »
Hello!

After a break I am revisiting my brick wall. One of my lines of enquiry is as follows:

1871 Census has Ellen Jenkins b Pwllheli c1839, unmarried and her niece Catherine Jenkins, b Pwllheli c1854, single, both living in Vron Lodge, Bangor, Caernarvonshire.

I have Ellen in future census records, but can't find either Ellen or Catherine in the earlier census records. Any help appreciated :)
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Hughes.  Bangor, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Birkenhead, Liverpool
Roberts. Bedgellert, Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog
Williams. Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog,  Holyhead,  Ystalyfera
Jones. Holyhead, Birkenhead, Liverpool

...and on the other side
Holland   Frodsham, Liverpool
Bold       Liverpool
Kay        Glasgow, Liverpool
Wilkinso

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Re: Trying to find Ellen Jenkins pre 1871
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 May 20 10:26 BST (UK) »
In 1861, records relating to areas of Pwllheli are missing or incomplete.
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/census-for-england-wales-and-scotland-missing-pieces

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Re: Trying to find Ellen Jenkins pre 1871
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 May 20 10:34 BST (UK) »
I hadn't realised that. Thank you!
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Hughes.  Bangor, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Birkenhead, Liverpool
Roberts. Bedgellert, Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog
Williams. Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog,  Holyhead,  Ystalyfera
Jones. Holyhead, Birkenhead, Liverpool

...and on the other side
Holland   Frodsham, Liverpool
Bold       Liverpool
Kay        Glasgow, Liverpool
Wilkinso

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Re: Trying to find Ellen Jenkins pre 1871
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 May 20 10:49 BST (UK) »
I suspect Ellen's age is wrong in 1871.

Pwllheli 11b, 416 J,F,M 1854 - mmn - Williams looks like the birth registration of Catharine Jenkins.
Pwllheli 11b, 821 A,M,J 1852 - John Jenkins/Elizabeth Williams may be the marriage of her parents. This marriage is on FindmyPast - John Jenkins, sailor Pwllheli, son of David Jenkins, shoemaker; Elizabeth Williams, Pwllheli, dau of Griffith Williams, joiner on 27 Apr 1852.

The 1841 census (HO107, 1392, 3, 12, 16) in Kings Head Street, Pwllheli has:
Catherine Jenkins, widow, 45, baker
John, son, 15
Ellin, dau, 10

and the 1851 (HO107, 2513, 297, 15) in High Street, Pwllheli has:
Catherine Jenkins, widow, 56, general shop keeper, b. Llannor
Ellin, dau. 20, b. Llannor

Talacharn has explained why I couldn't find the 1861!
Anglesey - Thomas:
Bodedern, Heneglwys, Llanfair-yn-Neubwll.
Anglesey - Jones:
Llanfaethlu, Llanfair-yn-Neubwll, Rhoscolyn.
Anglesey - Parry:Llanfair-yn-Neubwll.
Anglesey - Lewis:Llanbadrig.
Anglesey - Willins & Tyran/Tyrer

Caernarvonshire - Evans and Lewis:Llanberis.

Denbighshire - Jenkins:Llandynan, Llantysilio, Cerrigydrudion.
Denbighshire - Jones:Rhos, Ruabon.
Denbighshire - Jones:Henllan

Flintshire - Mathews:Northop

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Re: Trying to find Ellen Jenkins pre 1871
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 May 20 11:02 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much for that information. There's plenty for me to go on! Much appreciated :)
"This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk"
Hughes.  Bangor, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Birkenhead, Liverpool
Roberts. Bedgellert, Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog
Williams. Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog,  Holyhead,  Ystalyfera
Jones. Holyhead, Birkenhead, Liverpool

...and on the other side
Holland   Frodsham, Liverpool
Bold       Liverpool
Kay        Glasgow, Liverpool
Wilkinso