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Searching for Cole descendents in Sussex
« on: Saturday 09 May 20 16:56 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I'm hoping someone can assist me please. Up until recently I understood that my grandfather (Gordon James Cole (1905-1984)) was "adopted", however a DNA link has shown that either he wasn't or that he may have been the son of one of the other siblings (as also suggested here).

Gordon had two brothers (full or half) who lived to adulthood: Laurence Henry Cole (1888-1966) and William Wheatley Cole (1887-1959).

I'm aware that Laurence had two children: Stanley G H Cole (1924 - ?); and Raymond Harold T Cole (1928-1993). I have the 1939 Register which includes both of them. However, I have no more information on these in terms of whether they married or had children, or when Stanley died (assuming he has).

For William Wheatley: he married Aileen Byrne Daly in India in 1923 when in the army and died in Portsmouth in 1959. I have no further information or whether they had children. I understand that Aileen died somewhere between 1938-1942.

All of the Cole ancestors named above were born in Sussex (Chichester, Eastbourne or Brighton). I am struggling to find any further information so anything new would be hugely appreciated as I'm now researching in earnest now I know that there is the DNA link and that the "adoption" is not as black and white as first thought.

Many thanks for any help or advance.

Best wishes,
Jon.





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Re: Searching for Cole descendents in Sussex
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 May 20 17:12 BST (UK) »
Rootschat has a no living persons policy so if any children (or children of children) were still living we could not post their details

You can look for marriages on freebmd for Laurence's children and use the same site to look for any children born to the marriages.  Given their respective birthyears - any marriages would be in the 1940's so there may be living children

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 May 20 17:18 BST (UK) »
There is a probate entry for William Wheatley Cole showing widow as Ethel Ada

The entry is in 1960  https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Possible marriage 1938 Portsmouth to Ethel A Cooper so you should find him on the 1939 register.  Seems strange if Aileen only died 1938-1942 - unless they divorced
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Re: Searching for Cole descendents in Sussex
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 May 20 17:19 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Stanley's death is in the GRO index - Q2 2016 West Sussex.

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ADDED - the probate index gives his date of death as 23 May 2016.
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Re: Searching for Cole descendents in Sussex
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 May 20 17:36 BST (UK) »
Aileen was previously married - maiden name was Carroll

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGJ7-FM7

That is significant as any children born to the Cole marriage will show mmn as Carroll - not Daly
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Re: Searching for Cole descendents in Sussex
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 May 20 18:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Carole and Liz,

Thanks so much for taking the time to reply, very much appreciated. Unfortunately, FreeBMD has not yielded anything definitive for Stanley or Raymond in terms of marriages as there are lots to choose from! I'm grateful for the details on Stanley in 2016 which I wasn't aware and the probate reference. Equally, I wasn't aware that William had remarried so many thanks for that. I'm going to investigate the 1939 Register now!

Thanks again,
Jon.

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 May 20 22:15 BST (UK) »
As both brothers left wills, you can download a copy for 1.50 which may give details of children if they were beneficiaries
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Re: Searching for Cole descendents in Sussex
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 May 20 12:43 BST (UK) »
So we have just spent time duplicating some info that was already known ::)
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