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Peter Burton birth about 1757
« on: Sunday 10 May 20 08:25 BST (UK) »
  Hi
   I am hoping to find the parish record for Peter Burton's Baptism/ Birth in about 1757.

   I don't know who his parents are.   Now I believe he married Margarett Ram on the 30th January 1773. This was in Letheringsett, Norfolk, England.
  As far as I have found they had four children:   John: Dob 1773, Ann Dob:1775, Robert [Steel]: Dob 1778 and William Dob 1781.  The four children were baptised in Cromer, Holt, Norfolk, England and are all Church of England records.

Peter's birth may have been in Letheringsett.   Margarett and Peter moved to Cromer, Holt, Norfolk in May 1773 after their Marriage. This is noted on their Parish  Marriage Record.

Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Peter Burton birth about 1757
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 May 20 21:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Essnell

As you say Peter and Margaret married 30th January 1773.

Peter was from Cromer and Margaret from Letheringsett both single.

The note on the Parish Marriage Record says “Delivered in at Generals Holt May 1773” this does not imply that they moved, it is to do with the fact that every parish priest of the Church of England was supposed to make a copy of his parish register and send it to send to the archdeacon or bishop every year.

 Though they did move as you say, their children were baptised as follows
John 8 May 1773 at Cromer
Ann 2 November 1775 at Cromer
Robert 6 June 1779 at Holt
William 24 Dec 1781 at Holt

I have found a possible burial for Margaret, 20 February 1831 aged 80 at Holt (birth about 1751), so Peter’s birth could be a bit earlier than 1757. but I cannot pin him down yet.

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Re: Peter Burton birth about 1757
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 May 20 23:15 BST (UK) »
Hi  The Yokel,

Thank you for answering my post. And thank you for explaining  exactly what that Extra bit meant.

I  thought that they had moved to the Holt area but that bit was a little hard to read and it would not have made any sense as I am not clued up on the Church mechanisms.  So I have gained in knowledge.  So that means the Priest sent his copy to the Archdeacon or Bishop in May 1773.

I was looking into this part of my tree a number of years back and I have several options but then none actually linked this far back.  Hence revisiting.   I did have the three children John, Ann and Robert.  I only found the baptism records for them in the last 24hours and also surprisingly William.  All of which was good.

 Now you have found info on Margaret so I shall see where that takes me. Thinking I might  see if I can get her birth.  If I do I shall post it here.
I am hoping that by finding Peter's birth it may help with something else.

Thanks again for your kind help.
Essnell

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Re: Peter Burton birth about 1757
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 May 20 07:08 BST (UK) »
Hi The Yokel,

 I have looked up the Death record supplied for Margaret Burton in 1831 which I have been able to save. 

I then also looked for a birth around the 1751 time frame and found this :

 Baptism date 1753, Letheringsett, Norfolk, England. Parents : John Ram  and Abigiel. There is no available image.[Edit:  found baptism record Norfolk, England Church of England Baptisms. Norfolk, Letheringsett, 1653 - 1760]

The dates are close and the place exactly as on her Parish Marriage Record.  I would say this is her.
 
No success with Peter Burton in the records.  I did try with a wider year span from 1745 - 1760 also unsuccessfully. I have not yet looked for her parent's marriage.

Thanks again for looking and I hope more successfully than myself re Peter. 

Essnell


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Re: Peter Burton birth about 1757
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 May 20 20:30 BST (UK) »
John Ram=Abigal Daniel 7 Nov 1752 Letheringsett

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Re: Peter Burton birth about 1757
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 May 20 21:05 BST (UK) »
There is this burial at Holt, 24 Feb 1806
Peter Burton, Son of Peter Burton and Martha his Wife late Martha Allen Spinster
aged 71 years a Pauper

On FreeReg, ancestry, etc. Should be on FamilySearch

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Re: Peter Burton birth about 1757
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 May 20 21:30 BST (UK) »
1811 Holt church rate has a Margarett Burton
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D4JQ-V69?i=131&cat=999863

1803 Holt poor rate has a Peter Burton
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6969-4QD?cat=561823

Lots of parish chest material from Holt on FamilySearch

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Re: Peter Burton birth about 1757
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 May 20 21:35 BST (UK) »
Note a burial of a Peter Burton at Cromer, 5 Nov 1781, in case of any connection.

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Re: Peter Burton birth about 1757
« Reply #8 on: Monday 11 May 20 22:05 BST (UK) »
burial at Holt, 24 Feb 1806
Peter Burton, Son of Peter Burton and Martha his Wife late Martha Allen Spinster
aged 71 years

Struggling with a Peter and Martha
BUT
There is a marriage of a Peter Burton and Elizabeth Allen, 7 May 1732, Blakeney.

Baptisms at Glandford to Peter and Elizabeth Burton, including
Peter, 14 Feb 1740/1
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939X-DTX2-V?i=1131&cc=1824688&cat=375795

Nearby pages, Elizabeth (Elizebeth) in 1735
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939X-DTXP-Q?i=1128&cc=1824688&cat=375795

Among others at Glandford, a baptism of a Martha is indexed to Peter and Elizabeth Burton in 1749

So, if born not long before that baptism, Peter's age would be a bit out on the Holt burial record. And I'm not sure at the moment if we have Glandford burials?

Against that, location is good, the mother being an Allen good. Martha as mother's name may be wrong? :-\
But an awful lot of checking to be done.