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Cashiered in 1859, a grey or black sheep?
« on: Sunday 10 May 20 18:56 BST (UK) »
A relative was a cadet in the army in India in 1859 and evidently cashiered that year.  I found a brief note via the Indiafamilies website.
He was in trouble again after his return to England, but I have not found the reason for that sentence.  Any thoughts about sources?
His surname was the one I use as my signature.
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Re: Cashiered in 1859, a grey or black sheep?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 May 20 19:38 BST (UK) »
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A relative was a cadet in the army in India in 1859 and evidently cashiered that year.  I found a brief note via the Indiafamilies website

I can't see any reference to such an event in 1859 on either http://indiafamily.bl.uk/  or https://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/

Definitely an Ainslie cashiered in 1859? Or was it this one who was cashiered in 1861? http://indiafamily.bl.uk/ui/FullDisplay.aspx?RecordId=014-000026035
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Re: Cashiered in 1859, a grey or black sheep?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 May 20 19:41 BST (UK) »
The link did not work but you are right, 1861, not 1859.
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Re: Cashiered in 1859, a grey or black sheep?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 May 20 20:14 BST (UK) »
As to other spots of bother, there was a Frederick Ainslie aged 22 on the ship Corsica arrived New York from Nassau in August 1863, a gentleman born England.

The New York Times of 30 August 1863 carried this report:

"ARREST OF AN ENGLISH LORD. On the arrival of the British steamer Corsica at Jersey City, Friday, a complaint was preferred by I.D. HARRIS against FREDERICK AINSLIE, charging him with having stolen during the passage, a draft on the Bank of England, amounting to 300. The accused, who is reported to be a Lord, denied the charge, and appeared to be very much surprised when taken into custody; but upon examining his trunk the draft was discovered at the bottom among a number of other papers. The proof being conclusive against the Lord, he sent for his friend HARRIS, and after asking forgiveness and promising to make the matter satisfactory, the parties appeared before Recorder MARTINDALE, and the complaint was withdrawn. They both occupied the same stateroom on the passage to this port, and appeared to be on the most intimate terms until HARRIS discovered his loss, when he ordered the accused to procure another berth. It is furthermore alleged that no less than twenty-five persons came in this steamer from Havana, who, for the past eighteen months have been engaged in the blockading business, and having made considerable money, are now on their way to England."
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Re: Cashiered in 1859, a grey or black sheep?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 May 20 20:54 BST (UK) »
He was no Lord, but that could be my man.  Someone of his name is on Ancestry, US version, in a list of US Civil War soldiers, but I have only the UK version.  I wonder...
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Re: Cashiered in 1859, a grey or black sheep?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 May 20 02:21 BST (UK) »
Frederick G. H. Ainslee, age 24,  Enlisted in Company U, New Hampshire 8th Infantry Regiment on 31 Dec 1863.Mustered out on 05 Jan 1864 at Concord, NH.

DOB estimated abt 1839

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Re: Cashiered in 1859, a grey or black sheep?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 May 20 14:05 BST (UK) »
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Thanks for that.  I had seen an entry with less detail, but with correct spelling: ...lie at the end.  Do you have access to any more detail? 
Just noticed what a short time he served!
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Re: Cashiered in 1859, a grey or black sheep?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 11 May 20 15:48 BST (UK) »
I suspect he was still looking for a role after disgrace in Madras.  It would be very strange to find two men with the same surname and three initials.
Thanks very much for the pocket history.
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