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Info on french G-G-Grandparent Victor Pepin
« on: Monday 11 May 20 20:38 BST (UK) »
This is my first post so I hope I get this right. I'm hoping to find out wher my Great, great grandfather csame from in France and perhaps why he ended up in Glasgow in the 1870s.

My Great-great - grandfather Victor Pepin came to Glasgow sometime before 1879. This is the year he gets married to Jean McKenzie. He was a journeyman hairdresser and lived in the Gorbals in Glasgow. Both the wedding certificate and the census of 1881 state that he was born about 1857 in France (unhelpfully vague). He and Jean had 5 children, all boys. They appear to have lived in a tenement flat in Glasgow and reading into the death of the youngest, Peter who died at the age of 9 months, they were very poor as he dies of pneumonia.  Peter offers a clue about where Victor came from, his middle name is Chambois which is the name of a few places in Normandy. But on Peter's death certificate it looks as though it may be something else, I just can't read it.

Victor dies in 1889 on a busy street in Glasgow on a saturday night from asphyxia, sadly I fear this may have been alcohol related. He is either 32 or 35 (as it states on his death certificate) or somewhere in between.

His parents were Victor Baptiste Pepin (draper) and Frisa Colombo.
My family and I would love to know where he came from, and perhaps why. Everyone always asks us about our name and we say it's french but we'd love to know exactly where in France.

Hope you can help
Leigh

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Re: Info on french G-G-Grandparent Victor Pepin
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 May 20 20:53 BST (UK) »
THis attachment of Peter's death certificate might also be of help.

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Re: Info on french G-G-Grandparent Victor Pepin
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 May 20 02:10 BST (UK) »
http://www.geopatronyme.com/
 - there's no clear single location where the name Pepin is common. Colombo tends to come from the east of the country.

Some historical context: if his family were from a border region they might have been in a part of France which was annexed by Bismarck following the Franco-Prussian war in 1870 - there were also uprisings in Paris around this time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Commune

It looks like the images of birth/marriage have been removed (normally we're not supposed to put up the entire certificate).  Could you put up a transcription or just a very limited clip of the part that shows Peter's middle name?  It may well be a reference to either a family surname or to a location.

Also were the witnesses at his wedding any help - any sign of other French names, or are they all from Jean's side of the family? It would make more sense for him to head to Glasgow if he had a friend or relative or some other connection there. 
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Re: Info on french G-G-Grandparent Victor Pepin
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 May 20 07:25 BST (UK) »
are you aware that the Pepin family have been in SCOTLAND SINCE AROUND 1640'S
only a guess - but I believe they came over to help in the English Civil War 1642-1651
AGNES PEPIN marries 1675
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTPN-ZMC
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford


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Re: Info on french G-G-Grandparent Victor Pepin
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 May 20 10:53 BST (UK) »
Hope this is allowed, this is the Peter's name as written on death certificate. It looks like Chambois, but could also be longer - perhaps chamboissant or something like that.

Marriage certificate has 2 scottish names so don't think there was anyone French at the wedding. Jean's father and brother are both hairdressers so this appears to be where he has met her. Once Victor and Jean die, the remaining boys live with her brother so there is a close family bond there.

However there appears to be nothing about Victor having any friends or family here. It's a bit of a mystery.