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Re: Old Scottish occupation - 'Tower'
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 14 May 20 20:09 BST (UK) »
Mark, you've lost me now. This was a thread about William Baird of Liberton Tower.  I think you are referring to the other thread, as Forfarian says.
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Re: Old Scottish occupation - 'Tower'
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 14 May 20 21:03 BST (UK) »
Hello Gadget,

I was referred to the other thread and made some general comments about a Carrier.

The book link made an old/earlier reference to a place called Libberton (Liberton in the Index) being purchased by a Baird (and therefore be of no more interest than that).

However, if no Registers survive or lack detail, there might sometimes be information about properties of Tenants (Rentals) or very occasionally property sold to Tenants in main Landowner's Collection (in an Archive), depending on its survival.

From what I can gather the poster was also trying to link William Baird of the Tower to a Thomas Baird the Carrier of Liberton.

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Re: Old Scottish occupation - 'Tower'
« Reply #20 on: Friday 15 May 20 07:54 BST (UK) »
Goldie~

Fa might be short for Fairmilehead, also on my map link

https://maps.nls.uk/view/74426705#zoom=7&lat=4569&lon=8572&layers=BT


but it might be worth you going over the map to see if there are any other possible settlements.


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Thanks for that Gadget
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Old Scottish occupation - 'Tower'
« Reply #21 on: Friday 15 May 20 08:01 BST (UK) »
@Goldie/Gadget, a list of names in the kirkyard etc',

https://libertonkirk.net/history

Skoosh.

Thanks for the link Skoosh.
The list of names in the churchyard is tantalising! It just gives surnames. There are a few for Baird, but doesn't give and first names or dates. Something to follow up.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
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Re: Old Scottish occupation - 'Tower'
« Reply #22 on: Friday 15 May 20 08:13 BST (UK) »
A general thank you to everybody who has taken the time to reply to this query.

I have been unable to find any baptisms etc for my Thomas Baird.
The only record I have for him is that he was the father of Ann Baird who married John Suttie in 1781 in Edinburgh. He is started as being already deceased at that date. John Suttie and Ann only seem to have one child - a George Suttie in 1782, so no family names to look for (John's father was called George). It's possible Anne died some time after this birth.

The phrase 'needle in a haystack' comes to  mind!  :)
A dead end for more years than I like to think about.
I like the idea he  may have lived at Liberton Tower though!
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Old Scottish occupation - 'Tower'
« Reply #23 on: Friday 15 May 20 15:06 BST (UK) »
From memory, Fairmilehead got a mention in R.L.Stevenson's "Edinburgh!" so checked it out. In the last chapter, "The Pentland Hills," the toll-house at Fairmilehead stands at the meeting of four roads, a very lonely spot. Strangely enough he also recalls from memory the "Carriers!" who at the New Year were kept busy delivering big rounds of fancy shortbread to folk in the Borders from their youngsters working in Edinburgh!  ;D

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« Reply #24 on: Saturday 16 May 20 10:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Skoosh.
It all adds colour to their lives instead of just a list of names.  :)
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
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« Reply #25 on: Saturday 16 May 20 13:13 BST (UK) »
Shortbread inset with mottoes of candied peel, "A Guid New Year!" etc',  noo we have Greggs! ;D

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Re: Old Scottish occupation - 'Tower'
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 16 May 20 21:48 BST (UK) »
Shortbread inset with mottoes of candied peel, "A Guid New Year!" etc', 

Skoosh.

Now that sounds very yummy!  :)
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs