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Re: Old Scottish occupation - 'Tower'
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 14 May 20 08:56 BST (UK) »
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Fa might be short for Fairmilehead, also on my map link

https://maps.nls.uk/view/74426705#zoom=7&lat=4569&lon=8572&layers=BT


but it might be worth you going over the map to see if there are any other possible settlements.

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Re: Old Scottish occupation - 'Tower'
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 14 May 20 09:27 BST (UK) »
Your person of interest Thomas Baird, a Carrier was deceased before 1787, but you never gave a place area/region for him, only Liberton?
Liberton is the place; it is a parish in the county of Midlothian, and now part of the City of Edinburgh. See https://stataccscot.edina.ac.uk/static/statacc/dist/parish/Edinburgh/Liberton

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Because, there are two Libberton & Liberton places and both places can be spelt with either 1 or 2 letter b
Perfectly correct. But the other other is in the county of Lanark and the record Goldie found was in Midlothian.

Liberton Tower https://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=114523833

Fairmilehead is on the western boundary of the parish of Liberton, where it adjoins the parish of Colinton. See https://maps.nls.uk/view/74400125 - you may need to enlarge it.
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 14 May 20 09:54 BST (UK) »
Goldie

I've looked through a few of the Tax Rolls for Liberton and, as I said, most  descriptives are of the place of residence.

I assume that you are referring to the entries that are listed  as Far, as in this clip.
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Re: Old Scottish occupation - 'Tower'
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 14 May 20 10:07 BST (UK) »
@Goldie/Gadget, a list of names in the kirkyard etc',

https://libertonkirk.net/history

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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 14 May 20 10:15 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Skoosh. Lots of info in your link  :)



Fairmilehead is on the western boundary of the parish of Liberton, where it adjoins the parish of Colinton. See https://maps.nls.uk/view/74400125 - you may need to enlarge it.

Already given in my previous post, so no nead to enlarge:

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Fa might be short for Fairmilehead, also on my map link

https://maps.nls.uk/view/74426705#zoom=7&lat=4569&lon=8572&layers=BT


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Re: Old Scottish occupation - 'Tower'
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 14 May 20 13:35 BST (UK) »
Already given in my previous post, so no nead to enlarge
Different map, showing the parish boundaries.
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Re: Old Scottish occupation - 'Tower'
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 14 May 20 18:32 BST (UK) »
Looking at the ‘Carriage and Horse’ Tax for 1787 on Scotlandsplaces, there is a William Baird in Liberton, who is a ‘Tower’. He has just 1 horse. Any ideas of what this might be?


I thought it might tie in somehow with a Thomas Baird who I know was a carrier in Liberton, but was deceased before the date of the Taxes.

Thanks very much

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Gadget, I enjoyed seeing the snippet about the tower you posted and there was obviously a William there with the Baird surname.
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However, the original poster does not say which Liberton place Thomas Baird, the Carrier, deceased, was associated with?

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Re: Old Scottish occupation - 'Tower'
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 14 May 20 18:40 BST (UK) »
It's in a different thread, in the Midlothian forum
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=513452.0
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Re: Old Scottish occupation - 'Tower'
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 14 May 20 20:07 BST (UK) »
It's in a different thread, in the Midlothian forum
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=513452.0

Thanks.

Regarding a 'Carrier' usually a Man with a Cart and Horse sometimes delivering locally and taking post and parcels from a village or village Pub or Inn to the Posting House / Inn in a main town nearby.

I have also come across one "Carrier" who was a Trading Merchant / Importer (rare).

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There is an older/earlier reference to Baird being a Landowner of Libberton on page 23 (Index for page 23 spells it Liberton).
https://deriv.nls.uk/dcn23/9536/95361714.23.pdf

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Did Thomas Baird, Carrier, Deceased or a possible unknown spouse, leave a Will or Admin., or mentioned in the Will of someone else?

Of course Thomas Baird may be just someone with the same surname?

Mark