Harnwell

[Kamar]

Does anyone have any information about John Harnwell born 1802 to John Harnwell and Mary Noble in Bressingham, Norfolk? Thank you Kamar

[Girl Guide]

What information are you looking for?

There is an 1871 census record for a John Harnwell living at Ber Street, St John de Sepulchre, Norwich, Norfolk with his wife Mary.

The image says that he is an umbrella maker born in Bressingham.

Registration district   Norwich
Archive reference   RG10
Piece number   1814
Folio   118
Page   48

[Girl Guide]

There is a marriage record for a John Harnwell to a Mary Anne Fisk.  Married on 9 July 1832, place not specified.

The banns record however says Bressingham.

The image for the marriage states John was a widower, so presumably there is an earlier marriage somewhere.

[Girl Guide]

There is a death for a John Harnwell in 1876

Deaths Mar 1876   
HARNWELL    John    74    Norwich    4b   92

The gives a birth year of 1802

[Girl Guide]

I've found what appears to be the same man and his wife in the 1861 census.

Living at Market Hill, Framlingham, Plomesgate, Suffolk as lodgers.  His occupation is given as umbrella maker born in Bressingham.

He has been given a birth year of 1809 however if you look at the original his age is given as 58, so birth year of 1803.

No children with them.

Registration district   Plomesgate
Enumeration district   1
Archive reference   RG09
Piece number   1173
Folio   10
Page   14

Were you expecting them to have had children?

[Girl Guide]

I have found a baptism for a Mary Anne Harnwell on 5 May 1833 at Bressingham,  parents John and Mary and they even give Mary's maiden name of Fisk.

[Kamar]

Thank you Girl Guide. I have some of those but I'll check them out. This is a really complicated family. There are lots of them in the Bressingham area and some in West Walton. Sometimes if they move the spelling of the surname changes. I suppose that's due to pronunciation. Thanks again, Kamar

[jonwarrn]

John Harnwell and Mary Noble in Bressingham, Norfolk?

Is this the same John? From NROCAT
Norwich Consistory Court administration bonds
1808-1810 no. 79
Long, alias Harnwell, John, of Bressingham, Norfolk
Date 1809

On FamilySearch, two images
Widow of John Harnwell, otherwise Long, is Mary
He was a Private in the 18th Dragoons
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSG6-V9GV-Z?i=189&cat=278818

[Kamar]

I think this is a different person. There is one family whose father had a wife and a housekeeper, who had two families at the same time. Sometimes they called themselves Harnwell and sometimes Long and sometimes Long Harnwell.   Thank you for your help, Kamar