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Joseph Rowles - Help needed
« on: Saturday 16 May 20 15:30 BST (UK) »
Joseph Rowles was born on Friday, 31st December 1880 at Wernddu Cottages, McCarthy Row, Cwm Avon, Michaelstone, Glamorgan the eldest son of John and Ann Rowles (née Owens), a
‘Coal Miner’.

In the 1911 census he is age 29, single, and his occupation is as a ‘Coal Miner Hewer’.
He is living with his brother Jenkin Rees and his widowed mother Ann at Station Terrace, Pontrhydyfen, Port Talbot, Glamorganshire.

He enlisted in WW1 on 9th September 1914 and entered a War Zone on 2nd February 1915.
On 24th February 1915 he was hospitalised for dental work for 2 days and then sent to Convalescent Camp. He need more dental work of 4 December 1915 and was sent to 4th Stationary Hospital. At that time he  was serving with ‘B’ Company, 2nd Battalion, Devons.
As the Germans launched their Spring Offensive on 21st March 1918 the 2nd Battalion, Devonshire Regiment was rushed up to St. Christ to the east of Amiens to hold back the
advance, whilst the engineers detonated the bridge. The fighting was brutal as wave after
wave of Germans tried to dislodge them. Unable to do so the German Storm Troopers pushed
on around the bridge by crossing elsewhere and threatening to cut off the Devons. Forced to make a fighting withdrawal the battalion retired until the German advance petered out.
In the space of a week the battalion had lost a third of its effective strength.

In the ‘1939 register’ he is living at 22 Elba Avenue, Port Talbot, Glamorgan.
His occupation is given as ‘Coal Miner (Haulier)’.

His death cerrtificate states he died 24.1.1962 at 5 Leslie Street, Port Talbot, Neath, age 81.

CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHERE HE WAS BURIED/CREMATED

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Re: Joseph Rowles - Help needed
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 May 20 21:11 BST (UK) »
Unlikely to have been cremated. The crematorium at Margam (which is very near his last 2 addresses), was built in 1969.

Would there maybe be a family grave - his mother, maybe Jerusalem chapel which is on Station Rd would be a good place to look, I'm not sure if they're all on Find a grave, but no Rowse listed https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2577304/jerusalem-chapel

or even at Pontrhydfen Macpelah, but again no Rowse listed https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2560648/macpelah-cemetery
Both are on this link at full magnification on satellitr (for Macpelah scroll past the Blue Scar along the main Rd - B4287) https://www.cwgc.org/find-a-cemetery/cemetery/2080988/Pontrhydyfen%20(Jerusalem)%20Calvinistic%20Methodist%20Chapelyard

Maybe his Military Record would confirm his r eligion and maube give a clue to where he might be buried, since there are  2 Cof E cemeteries near - St Michael's Church Cwmafan post code
SA12 9AW

& Holy Cross https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2539474/memorial-search?page=1#sr-14570633

There is also Pant Du cemetery https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2576090/pantdu-cemetery

and also Goytre run by the local council https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2542727/memorial-search?page=1#sr-145706279
But the council charge £45 for look ups Telephone: (01639) 686121 / 686122
E-mail: [email protected]
Web Site: www.npt.gov.uk/cemeteries

In case you weren't aware, there is a Welsh newspaper report in Y Darian of Thursday 30th May, 1918 that states he was injured in France along with Jsoeph J James, and that he was in Netley Hospital. It's in Welsh though https://cymru1914.org/en/view/newspaper/4021113/5

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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 17 May 20 09:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Sam,

Thank you for all the information you have posted.
I have checked Find a Grave but nothing there.

There are no papers for WW1 but he did serve prior to the war and in 1902 gave his religion as Wesleyan.

I was very interested in the newspaper report about his injury.
Could you provide a translation of the entry.

Regards
STUART


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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 17 May 20 13:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Stuart

The very short notice under "Pontrhydyfen" bottom of first column, is as follows:
Pontrhydyfen
Soldiers J. James Joseph Rowles were injured in France . the latter is in Netley Hospital. We wish them a speedy recovery.
Y Darian 30 May 1918 page  6
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4021113/4021119/28/

Joseph was awarded a silver war badge and discharged due to being wounded, on 24 Sep 1918 (badge no. B9341).

There is a tree on Ancestry that has descendents of his brother listed, with specific dates of death but no burial place. It might be worth contacting them to see if they have info.

The fact that there are no Rowles listed on Find a grave doesn't necessarily mean they are not buried there, since they generally only record the graves that actually have headstones.

There is also a lrage council cemetery in Cymmer, which is also not far from Pontrhydyfen.