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Brick wall in Yorkshire
« on: Sunday 17 May 20 19:47 BST (UK) »
Any advice please. My family name Hardy traced back to 1780 Ellerburn near Thornton Dale . Other Hardys   there but connection elusive. Family oral history and local historian Jefferies 1931 would have the family there since 1717. How should I approach solving this riddle ? Thanx

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Re: Brick wall in Yorkshire
« Reply #1 on: Monday 18 May 20 08:25 BST (UK) »
What evidence does 'Jefferies 1931' have, for you to check out?

Could you give us the name and dates of the 1780 near Ellerburn person?

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Re: Brick wall in Yorkshire
« Reply #2 on: Monday 18 May 20 15:02 BST (UK) »
He does not quote his sources other than access to the squires records .of course there is no squire now . Thanx


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Re: Brick wall in Yorkshire
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 07 June 20 11:05 BST (UK) »
Found this at Ellerton,
Burial Stephen Hardy, Shepherd, 01 April 1782.
Lincolnshire,   Andrew/s Jenkinson, 
Yorkshire,   Andrew/s, Watson, Norris, Simpson, Binnington, Willingham, Theakston, Kingdom, Brown, Fewson, Croforth, Boynton/Bointon, Jenkinson, Crawford/Croforth, Hessey, Harper, Mann, Worledge, Flatman.
Kent, Kingdom, Cosham,
Norfolk,   Worlidge, Flatman, Alden, West, Kett, Gathercole. Starkey
Suffolk,   Wallage, Worledge, Starkey
Nth Battleford, Canada, Worledge, Flatman
Devon, Kingdom, Sparkes Morrish, Rumley, Westcott, Pleace
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Re: Brick wall in Yorkshire
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 07 June 20 12:14 BST (UK) »
He does not quote his sources other than access to the squires records .of course there is no squire now . Thanx

Was Hill the Squire?

Ellerburn
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/yorks/north/vol2/pp437-440

Thornton Dale
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/yorks/north/vol2/pp492-497

Searching Hill in the above mentions ...
Richard Johnson Hill of Thornton Hall died 1793

Searching Google Hill family of Thornton gives a Collection

"Hill, family of Thornton Dale"
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F246923

North Yorkshire County Record Office
Reference ZN
c.1500 - 1999 Estate and Family Records

If they were Tenants of the Lord of the Manor, look in Rentals, Surveys and/or Accounts Books.

If they held/owned Copyhold property, look for transfers in the Court Rolls of the Manor Courts (some Manors Indexed these in Volumes and Books too).

Seems Hill owned few Manors.

Some of these English Manor collections are extensive and it is not unusual to spend a day going through just the Paper Index Volumes of a Collection, to see what other types of records and documents are listed, which might contain information of an ancestor (or place) within a Manor, hidden within an individual document.

Yorkshire Freeholders
Freeholders - look in the Deeds Register Indexes of the particular Riding and then the Registration Books.

Yorkshire Wills
Some left a Will. Only a tiny fraction of Yorkshire Wills are on f m p, the remainder are indexed online, with the Will Books and Wills at the Borthwick, York, (Check if any family Wills were also registered at the PC of Canterbury, on A n c).

Wills after 1858 also search Probate Wills on gov.uk

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