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Offline Finley 1

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why did i bother
« on: Wednesday 20 May 20 09:27 BST (UK) »
this is a snap of a few of the results I get...

I should have also put a snap of the negative responses when asking.. to discuss with the relevant party.   


It is such a silly waste of my time to go through this lot... for no results.


The only good result ever was proving that my Nephew was my nephew.. which allowed me to know who I am..  ha ha ha..

the rest dinada.... I do have one or two but they were previously known...

the Scottish ones are OK.. but thats about it.. 

So I am going to again fill out MY TREE that I attached with FULL details and ensure they are correct  to see what happens next..
wop

xin
Shared DNA: 35 cM across 2 segments

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5 people in her tree but she is definitely (ancestry says) related to me.. get out of here

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yes loads of matches but which are correct

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Re: why did i bother
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 May 20 09:46 BST (UK) »
For some of us this is the only way to knock down a brick wall that cannot be solved using paper trail. I am one of those who is very happy with what I have got out of my DNA results, but then I have put a lot time and effort into analysing the results. I have also tested other family members because their results help me to gain a better understanding of my own by narrowing down which lines they are most likely to belong to.
Start by working with the matches that do have trees. More of the others will slot into place after you have figured those out and developed your tree accordingly. If you are on AncestryDNA and are struggling with making any sense of your results, make sure they are correctly connected to your profile in your tree. You should then be able to see common ancestors and start to develop collateral lines leading to the match. Make use of the shared matches function to group matches together and look for the commonality in each group. There can be a great sense of satisfaction as the pieces of the puzzle start to fall into place, but you do have to put some work into it.
Crackett, Cracket, Webb, Turner, Henderson, Murray, Carr, Stavers, Thornton, Oliver, Davis, Hall, Anderson, Atknin, Austin, Bainbridge, Beach, Bullman, Charlton, Chator, Corbett, Corsall, Coxon, Davis, Dinnin, Dow, Farside, Fitton, Garden, Geddes, Gowans, Harmsworth, Hedderweek, Heron, Hedley, Hunter, Ironside, Jameson, Johnson, Laidler, Leck, Mason, Miller, Milne, Nesbitt, Newton, Parkinson, Piery, Prudow, Reay, Reed, Read, Reid, Robinson, Ruddiman, Smith, Tait, Thompson, Watson, Wilson, Youn

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Re: why did i bother
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 May 20 10:58 BST (UK) »
I am using that relatively new function in Ancestry which allows you to connect a match's dna with your ancestry tree, which is relatively easy with those wit whom you have common ancestors.  Quite often it means adding a lot of additional people to your tree to get down to say a 5th cousin match and if in the female line you very quickly lose sight of the names you know.  However, this means that you become aware of a lot of other surnames within your tree and can sometimes just pick up a hint by seeing that name in somebody else's tree where you can't actually see a match to your main lines.
Work through those with common ancestors first, then as Craclyn says go back to their shared matches and you might find that actually you can now spot another familiar name, from way down your descendancy.

It takes time and effort but is having positivie results for me.

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Bishop - Sussex & Kent
Holland - Essex
Nevitt - Cheshire & Staffordshire
Wray - Yorkshire

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Re: why did i bother
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 May 20 11:04 BST (UK) »
I get the work at it 'ethic'   but you need a good head for that.. :) :) sadly mine is a little ...uhm   

anyhow   

this was just showing the amount of people that have only half hearted attempts to connect.. with little or no tree attached.. I had created a specific tree just to attach to the DNA -- But think I will give up on it now and close it from public use..

Brain and time not sufficient to work it through..


I had struggled to find a connection to each of my Brick walls  and my illegitimates.. I havent just sat and hoped for it to work itself out..

So leaving this now

will close

the subject

thanks anyway


thanks for help

Xin


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Re: why did i bother
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 May 20 11:47 BST (UK) »
Take a break and come back to it, but please don’t close your tree. That link may be just what someone else needs to knock down a brick wall that has been plaguing them for years.
Crackett, Cracket, Webb, Turner, Henderson, Murray, Carr, Stavers, Thornton, Oliver, Davis, Hall, Anderson, Atknin, Austin, Bainbridge, Beach, Bullman, Charlton, Chator, Corbett, Corsall, Coxon, Davis, Dinnin, Dow, Farside, Fitton, Garden, Geddes, Gowans, Harmsworth, Hedderweek, Heron, Hedley, Hunter, Ironside, Jameson, Johnson, Laidler, Leck, Mason, Miller, Milne, Nesbitt, Newton, Parkinson, Piery, Prudow, Reay, Reed, Read, Reid, Robinson, Ruddiman, Smith, Tait, Thompson, Watson, Wilson, Youn

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Re: why did i bother
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 May 20 07:13 BST (UK) »
Yeah, I wouldn't suggest closing your tree. While ever your tree and your DNA is "out there" new people will be coming across them all them time. When I had my DNA tested only 5 years ago, Ancestry had about a million people in their DNA database back then, now it is 16 million.

Possibly the other requirement to getting results (as well as work, which others have mentioned) is PATIENCE. I searched for my Grandfather's parentage for 9 years before I found it, and that was 2 years after I first had my DNA tested. I put a lot of work in, but in the end the answer just fell in my lap when a key person also tested and we connected.

So I agree. Take a break, but leave everything there to work away, just like money in a high interest account.

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Re: why did i bother
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 May 20 09:31 BST (UK) »
I sympathise

I have 12 matches 60 cM or closer

Only 2 have posted significant trees and both come up as common ancestors, a 3rd also shows a common ancestor. Despite having an extensive knowledge of my tree, all in Southern England, I can only clearly identify 5 of these connections

1) 954 cM across 43 segments
my first cousin

2) 339 cM across 17 segments
I have over 20 first cousins

3) 167 cM across 8 segments
No reply

4) 150 cM across 9 segments
long absent, small tree with no overlapping geography

5)145 cM across 9 segments
2nd cousin once removed, old contact

6)122 cM across 4 segments
adopted, knows little of real family

7) 118 cM across 5 segments
3rd cousin based on his tree of 8 names

8) 95 cM across 5 segments
3rd cousin once removed from Thrulines and my knowledge

9) 92 cM across 6 segments
long absent

10) 86 cM across 6 segments
just contacted

11) 61 cM across 4 segments
3rd cousin- her tree and Thrulines; no reply to query about the origins of our 3 x great grandather

12) 60 cM across 3 segments
long absent

8, 9 and 10 are shared matches, so presumably from the same set of great grandparents

2 and 3 are shared matches with 5. And 3 is identifiable as 2's niece. The logical conclusion from the high level matches being that my grandfather fathered a child outside of his marriage

1, 4, 6 and 7 are shared matches

11 and 12 are only shared matches with less closely matched ancestors

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Re: why did i bother
« Reply #7 on: Monday 25 May 20 12:37 BST (UK) »
I sat and re- read all this  :) 

I have worked on my Tree for over 18 years one way and another... I am 73 and I started this lark when I was at University as a 'very Mature' student... in my 50's --- So I know about how to work with it.... but thanks all for advice ---

I had no absolute intention of taking my tree 'off' Ancestry (I have more than one on there) so the one that is specific for DNA -- is the one I will give some more attention... What I have done with it --- is left it PRIVATE ... whilst I assess .. things..   Plenty of time to do that with this Lockdown... etc.. or has that ended now... Who knows...   blethering on again.

I need to attempt to fulfill 3 personal promises regarding my tree and that is Fred --- Charles and Walter .. all with suspicious parent hood.. and therefore  their surnames   are not ... what they should be.. I need more than anything to find this lot but nothing comes up for them on my tree. so.. leaving it for now... as is and on the shelf... just for another short space of time..

again thank you

MY post was just a moan ... that after going to all the trouble to do a specific DIRECT LINE DNA tree and putting it on Ancestry Public.. the results for contacts were pathetic... NO ARE pathetic..

HO HUM

I hope everyone is well today and all enjoying the sun and taking good care of themselves... please do..

Xinley   aka me


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Re: why did i bother
« Reply #8 on: Friday 07 January 22 15:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
There is some misleading “ideas” about the accuracy of DNA family research. It’s not that your DNA is fudged or misinterpreted, its the database the DNA companies use to match yours with others. Ancestry specialise in North America and Myheritage specialise in Europe. I’ve had my DNA checked by both and results were startlingly different. One had me 4% Scandinavian the other 68% Scandinavian. I’ve traced my tree back in most roots to the early 19th century, some as far back as the 1670’s, none were Scandinavian. Two were Jewish (not picked up by either) and one was Italian (again neither picked up). Both were quite good at Identifying my recent roots to South Staffordshire, but neither picked up that a large group came from Essex. I have made contact with a DNA match from my Grandma’s family so it wasn’t a complete waste, but there is nothing like the hard graft of paper trails and BDM records.