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Re: Re: Census 1901/1911 - Missing townlands or Streets
« Reply #9 on: Monday 18 May 20 15:40 BST (UK) »
Oh I see that would explain a lot although I have been able to find other info  from Irish genealogy. ie
Unfortunately cannot find my grandmother and grandfathers marriage licence they were supposed to be married on 22/12 /1925 his name was william thomas Campbell  I xant find anything for him on this site he was born 1/2/1900

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Re: Re: Census 1901/1911 - Missing townlands or Streets
« Reply #10 on: Monday 18 May 20 16:38 BST (UK) »

... by the time the birth of their son James was registered in 1910, 20 Copperfield Street was indeed shown as their address (the 1910 Belfast street directory shows William as the occupier of that address as well):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01563/1630890.pdf


As far as I can see, the child before James was William James, the birth registration for whom (below) states the father William's address as 47 Upper Canning Street, so reasonable to assume that the family moved into the house at 20 Copperfield Street (that would be their home for over three decades) some time between the registration of the two births:       
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01637/1654563.pdf

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Re: Re: Census 1901/1911 - Missing townlands or Streets
« Reply #11 on: Monday 18 May 20 16:51 BST (UK) »
No that would be my granny's brother .
My grandfather and grandmother were married on 22/12/ 1925  I believe and my mums eldest brother was born when they  lived  at 20 copperfield  street x
You have been an absolute Godsend to me I could not have found any of this info without your help. Could u tell me where I could find information about their marriage licence  please ? And where did u find the info about my great grandfather living at copperfield street up until after agnes died.
My mum says she thinks they had to move out when copperfield street was bombed in the belfast blitz.
Thank u so much for your help.
ElaineG

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Re: Re: Census 1901/1911 - Missing townlands or Streets
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 19 May 20 00:17 BST (UK) »

No that would be my granny's brother .
My grandfather and grandmother were married on 22/12/ 1925  I believe and my mums eldest brother was born when they  lived  at 20 copperfield  street x
You have been an absolute Godsend to me I could not have found any of this info without your help. Could u tell me where I could find information about their marriage licence  please ? And where did u find the info about my great grandfather living at copperfield street up until after agnes died.
My mum says she thinks they had to move out when copperfield street was bombed in the belfast blitz.
Thank u so much for your help.
ElaineG


Dinah was born at 47 Upper Canning Street:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01871/1728608.pdf

The 'irishgenealogy' website, on which the above record is accessible, is operated by the Republic of Ireland's Department of Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht, as such, coverage of marriages is only up until partition in 1921, so to view the 1925 marriage registration for William Thomas Campbell and Dinah Stewart, you would need to use the website of the General Register Office (Northern Ireland) at the link below, the record is 'pay to view', so you would have to register and buy credits.   

https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

The following website comprises Belfast street directories for a range of years, in which you can look up Copperfield Street:

https://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/

The death of Agnes (Barbour) Stewart was announced in a death notice in the Belfast Telegraph on 29 December 1938: 'STEWART - In loving memory of my dear wife, Agnes Barbour Stewart, who died 29th December, 1933... Ever remembered by her sorrowing Husband and Family. 20 Copperfield Street, Belfast'.  There is also a notice placed by 'her sorrowing Daughter and Son-in-law and Grandchildren. DINAH AND WILLIAM CAMPBELL. 50 Battenburg Street, Belfast'. The image of the notice is available to view on the subscription-based 'British Newspaper Archive' website, which operates in partnership with the British Library Board.


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Re: Re: Census 1901/1911 - Missing townlands or Streets
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 19 May 20 00:36 BST (UK) »

Oh I see that would explain a lot although I have been able to find other info  from Irish genealogy. ie
Unfortunately cannot find my grandmother and grandfathers marriage licence they were supposed to be married on 22/12 /1925 his name was william thomas Campbell  I xant find anything for him on this site he was born 1/2/1900


That matches the following birth registered in 1900:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/02010/1772482.pdf

This looks like the marriage for his parents Thomas Campbell and Mary Evans, both fathers identified as Thomas:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1897/10451/5805491.pdf

This is Thomas Campbell and family, living with his father-in-law Thomas Evans in Brookmount Street in 1901:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Woodvale_Ward/Brookmount_Street/986094/

This is Thomas Campbell and family living at 50 Battenberg Street in 1911, note in addition to the 2 sons from the 1901 census, his wife is now Ellen (born Co Cork) and in the house are also two 'sons' John and Christie (born Co. Cork and Co. Kerry):
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Woodvale/Battenburg_Street/178175/

Burial record for William Campbell here (also Dinah):
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialSearch.aspx?GraveSection=U&GraveNumber=1886&CemeteryName=Roselawn%20Cemetery


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Re: Re: Census 1901/1911 - Missing townlands or Streets
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 19 May 20 05:49 BST (UK) »
My goodness you really are amazing  !!!!!  The knowledge u have on the subject of genealogy astounds me.
I had virtually given up hope of finding anything of my granny. It was so upsetting because when I was growing up we were very close.
If I want to view her certificate of marriage how do I buy credits and can I then print a copy for my own records ?
Many thanks once again for all your help . It means so much to me and also my family .

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Re: Re: Census 1901/1911 - Missing townlands or Streets
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 19 May 20 06:43 BST (UK) »
I ve just noticed your second email. For william Campbell battenberg street  william Campbell remarried after his first wife ( my grandfathers mother)  died shortly after childbirth. He then remarried a woman called ellen.
My grandfathers brother herbert ernest campbell was killed 1st july 1916 at the Somme aged 18.
A little bit of the background information for u on our family x
Many thanks for all of your help x
Elaine

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Re: Re: Census 1901/1911 - Missing townlands or Streets
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 19 May 20 08:47 BST (UK) »

... If I want to view her certificate of marriage how do I buy credits and can I then print a copy for my own records ?


It's just a question of following the instructions in that website, it's an official NI Government website, so all above board, the only thing I would add is that the option you may want is to 'Search for a marriage registration' rather than ordering an actual marriage certificate (which is much dearer), once you have found the marriage in the index, then choose the 'Full' viewing option to see the registration, it costs 5 credits which I think is currently £2.50 (50p per credit).  The image is available to you for 72 hours, whereupon it is deleted from your account. 

But here's the thing, GRONI says that one isn't allowed to download / take a copy of the image - I don't know how many folk actually comply with that, as opposed to using the Print Screen button on the keyboard.

Yes, I saw Herbert on the CWGC website:
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/762985/campbell,-herbert-ernest/


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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 19 May 20 09:18 BST (UK) »
Yes my husband and I visited herbert's memorial at the thiepval monument  in france. We left a poppy there in memory of him and the others who died.  Even though my grandad fought in 2nd world war I dont believe he ever got to visit his brothers memorial-such a pity x