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Offline coelmar

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Rose Jane Harrison Bigamist marriage 1896
« on: Wednesday 20 May 20 21:43 BST (UK) »
     Rose Jane Harrison age 23 of 21 Victoria Promenade, Northampton, married Dexter Thomas Dalley on 25 Dec 1896 at All Saints, Northampton giving her father as Thomas Harrison, collier?   page 58 No. 115 of register  witnesses William John Dalley (?) and Edith Mary Ward.
     Rose Jane Harrison age 23 of 21 Victoria Promenade, Northampton, married William George Smith on 25 Dec 1896 at All Saints, Northampton giving her father as John Henry Cox, groom   page 58 No. 116 of register   witnesses Annie Cox and John Henry Cox.

     Yes, I know, Christmas Day, brandy for the parson and baccy ......

      I know Rose Dalley had Henry 1897, Herbert 1901 and Edith 1904.     I also know Rose J gave her birth date on the 1939 Register as 7 July 1874.
      She may have been living in Bolton as a 17year old cook from Northampton at 1891 census, but would only have been 16. 
      She may have been daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth Harrison of Birmingham in 1881 and 1891 census, but again a year out in age.
       Pretty certain she is not Rose daughter of Vincent Frost O'Connor publican, drunkard and adulterer (or so his wife said at the divorce) of Northampton.
       I have tried FindMyPast and Ancestry, a number of near fits, but no actual hits. 

       Covid lockdown and a dodgy knee are enough for me, but Rose really is pushing it too far!
Can anyone offer ideas as to her origins, please?

Thanks

Coelmar
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Re: Rose Jane Harrison Bigamist marriage 1896
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 May 20 22:09 BST (UK) »
Hi...

Freebmd gives four names on the page.

Catherine Annie Cox
Dexter Thomas Dalley
Rose Jane Harrison
William George Smith..

Is Rose on both marriage certs? If so just an error somewhere.

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Re: Rose Jane Harrison Bigamist marriage 1896
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 May 20 22:44 BST (UK) »
The actual marriage certs are incorrect.  Suspect the vicar prepared them in advance and got his brides muddled.

The cert for Cox & Smith shows Rose as the bride but the signatures are those of William George Smith & Catherine Annie Cox & their 2 witnesses are surname Cox

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Re: Rose Jane Harrison Bigamist marriage 1896
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 May 20 22:55 BST (UK) »

Rose Jane Harrison age 23 of 21 Victoria Promenade, Northampton, married
Dexter Thomas Dalley on 25 Dec 1896 at All Saints, Northampton
giving her father as Thomas Harrison, collier?   page 58 No. 115 of register 

witnesses William John Dalley (?) and Edith Mary

I also know Rose J gave her birth date on the 1939 Register as 7 July 1874.


Is it possible that this his her birth entry mmn blank on GRO indexes

DALLEY, ROSA  JANE HARRISON    - 
1874  S Quarter in NORTHAMPTON UNION  Volume 03B  Page 56

DALLEY, DEXTER  THOMAS  mmn   SKEVINGTON 
1873  J Quarter in NORTHAMPTON UNION  Volume 03B  Page 81

1881c Mile Street, Bozeat, Wellingborough, Northamptonshire
Henry T   Dalley   Head   1824   Grocer   Turvey, Bedfordshire
Martha   Dalley   Wife   1834   -   Bozeat, Northamptonshire
Dexter   T   Dalley   Son   1873   Scholar   Bozeat, Northamptonshire

Same address in 1891 plus 3 lodgers and

William   Skevington   Brother In Law   Single 1853   Baker   Bozeat, Northamptonshire

 
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Re: Rose Jane Harrison Bigamist marriage 1896
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 May 20 23:03 BST (UK) »
Transcribed as Dalby

1881 1554/69/39

Thomas Harrison 27 Yrs
Mary J. Harrison   26 yrs
Rose J. Dalby 6 yrs b Northampton
William J. Dalby   3 yrs
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Re: Rose Jane Harrison Bigamist marriage 1896
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 20 May 20 23:05 BST (UK) »
Marriage 1880 Northampton
Thomas Harrison and Mary Jane Dalley are on the same page
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Re: Rose Jane Harrison Bigamist marriage 1896
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 20 May 20 23:10 BST (UK) »
Transcribed as Dalby

1881 1554/69/39

Thomas Harrison 27 Yrs
Mary J. Harrison   26 yrs
Rose J. Dalby 6 yrs b Northampton
William J. Dalby   3 yrs
Marriage 1880 Northampton
Thomas Harrison and Mary Jane Dalley are on the same page

Great find 1881 census was just about to post same marriage entry
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Re: Rose Jane Harrison Bigamist marriage 1896
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 20 May 20 23:15 BST (UK) »
Possibly baptism for Mary

Mary Jane Dalley
Baptism date   07 Jan 1855 Northampton
Father John Mother Elizabeth

Edit to add 1861 census
Court, St Peters Street, Northampton
John   Dalley   Head   Widower   1829   Labourer   Turvey, Bedfordshire
Ann   Dalley   Unmarried   1844   Housekeeper   Turvey, Bedfordshire
Mary   Dalley   Daughter   1855   -   Northampton, Northamptonshire
Ann   Dalley   Daughter 1857   -   Northampton,
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Re: Rose Jane Harrison Bigamist marriage 1896
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 20 May 20 23:38 BST (UK) »
Church record for marriage

St Katharine’s Northampton

January 18th 1880
Thomas Harrison 26 yrs Bachelor Labourer residence Mare Fair father Joseph Harrison labourer
Mary Jane Dalley 25yrs Mare Fair father John Dalley, labourer

Witnesses Alfred Harrison and Anne Dalley
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