John murray

[heathera1940]

John Murray b c1854 London married Ellen Sophie Stockton in 1881 Clerkenwell. In the 1871 census John is living in Shoreditch as an apprentice Tailor. He is listed as a foundling.On his marriage certificate name of father is left blank. would there be a birth listed for him anywhere. Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks

[CaroleW]

If he was a foundling it's possible he was just given the name John Murray

If you use Google - it gives info on foundlings and of the foundling hospitals

[heathera1940]

Thank you.   I'll try that.   

[CaroleW]

Just looking at a Southwark Workhouse entry for a John Murray aged 3 admitted 2.6.1858.

Deserted by mother 1.6.1858 and brought in by a Louisa Gordon or Cordon of 6 Disney St

Nothing else at the moment

[rosie99]

That is a good find CaroleW

In case you need to look at it 6 Disney Street is at RG9/327 folio 34 page 62 in 1861 Though no sign of Louisa

[CaroleW]

Thanks Rosie - can’t find anything else on him.

Assuming he was illegitimate - GRO maiden name search has no births in the London area without a mmn

The other possibilities are that his father died & mother was destitute??
He was born somewhere other than London but abandoned there?

[jonw65]

1861 census, Pancras RD
John Murray, 8, in the Foundling Hospital, Guilford Street.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M75P-FRC

Image here, piece 108 folio 78
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3F4-M9M9-G?i=162&cat=566441

[rosie99]

There is another Workhouse record that may be worth looking at for Lambeth, no evidence they are linked to each other

Admitted 16 January 1854 - Charlotte Murray age 19

17 January 1854 Murray, Male child born

Both discharged 4 Feb 1854 - No mention as to where to.

[jonw65]

In the 1871 census John is living in Shoreditch as an apprentice Tailor. He is listed as a foundling.

Just in case he was apprenticed from the Foundling Hospital (records at the London Metropolitan Archives)
LMA Information Leaflet No.33
Finding Your Foundling
A guide to finding records in the Foundling Hospital Archives
https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/visitor-information/Documents/33-finding-your-foundling.pdf