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Ure Beatrice Ward, left Australia 1922 for London
« on: Sunday 24 May 20 07:30 BST (UK) »
Hoping that someone may be able to help me find a shipping record for Ure Beatrice Ward (possibly Holden or Hubbard) in 1922, returning from Australia to London, England

Further information can be found here

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=831301.0

Ure Beatrice Ward travelled with her husband Alfred and young son Stephen to Australia in 1922. They arrived 13 Feb 1922 aboard Demosthenes.

By 14 Jan 1923, Ure Beatrice Hubbard is back in England, daughter Ure Joyce Hubbard was born.

Ure's stay in Australia must have been very brief, but have been unable to find her return journey, either as Holden (maiden name), Ward (1st husband's surname) or Hubbard (2nd husband's surname).

I believe passports had been introduced by that stage, so presumably looking for Mrs/Ure/Beatrice/Ward. She left London as Beatrice Ward, arrived Australia as Ura Ward.
She was born in 1891.

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Re: Ure Beatrice Ward, left Australia 1922 for London
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 24 May 20 08:09 BST (UK) »


If Ure Beatrice would seem to have acquired Mr HUBBARD and / or his name, since leaving England, 1922........

From the birth certificate, 1923, what do you know about Mr HUBBARD?

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Re: Ure Beatrice Ward, left Australia 1922 for London
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 24 May 20 09:08 BST (UK) »
They arrived 13 Feb 1922 aboard Demosthenes

Landed at Melbourne

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Re: Ure Beatrice Ward, left Australia 1922 for London
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 24 May 20 09:54 BST (UK) »

PROV Unassisted Passenger List
https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/passenger-records-and-immigration

"Demosthenes"  arrived Melbourne  Feb 1922
WARD Alfred       34y      page 5       
WARD Ura          32y       page 5
WARD Stephen    1y        page 5

HOLDEN Sarah   49y       page 4
HOLDEN Harold  19y       page 4
HOLDEN Seth     13y       page 4
HOLDEN Dennis    5y      page 4

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Re: Ure Beatrice Ward, left Australia 1922 for London
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 24 May 20 10:10 BST (UK) »
In 1922, Ure Beatrice must have travelled back to UK shortly after she arrived, and it is this record which I am asking for. The other information I have given below and on another thread is largely irrelevant to this question, wivenhoe.

More info can be found in the link to the other thread.

Ure Beatrice Holden married Alfred Ward, had 2 sons with him, he went off to war in 1915.

Ernest Hubbard married Ure Beatrice Ward, widow and had a son with him.

Alfred Ward returned from war, not exactly sure what happened next, but Alfred and Ure had another son, Stephen, in 1920.

In 1922 Alfred, Ure and Stephen arrived Australia on board Demosthenes, by Jan 1923, Ure had returned to England, had a daughter with Ernest Hubbard.

The first son of Alfred and Ure and the son of Ernest and Ure remained in England. These 3 children and Ure ended up living with another man, Albert Edward Langley, all took the surname of Langley, and another daughter was born to Ure and Albert Edward.

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WILKINSON, Leeds, Yorkshire and Liverpool; WILLIAMSON, Liverpool; BEARE, Yeovil, Somerset; ALLEN, Kent and London; GORST, Liverpool; HOYLE, mainly Leeds, Yorkshire

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Re: Ure Beatrice Ward, left Australia 1922 for London
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 24 May 20 10:13 BST (UK) »
wivenhoe, It is the return passage to England I'm looking for, I have both departure from London and arrival in Australia already.

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STEER, mainly Surrey, Kent; PINNOCKS/HAINES, Gosport, Hants; BARKER, mainly Broadwater, Sussex; Gosport, Hampshire; LAVERSUCH, Micheldever, Hampshire; WESTALL, London, Reading, Berks; HYDE, Croydon, Surrey; BRIGDEN, Hadlow, Kent and London; TUTHILL/STEPHENS, London
WILKINSON, Leeds, Yorkshire and Liverpool; WILLIAMSON, Liverpool; BEARE, Yeovil, Somerset; ALLEN, Kent and London; GORST, Liverpool; HOYLE, mainly Leeds, Yorkshire

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Re: Ure Beatrice Ward, left Australia 1922 for London
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 24 May 20 12:29 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Have you searched for the arrivals into the UK for your lass - you have a tight timeframe - ?   She should be on a British Passport.   :) 

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Re: Ure Beatrice Ward, left Australia 1922 for London
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 24 May 20 12:44 BST (UK) »
I have, JM, nothing found this side of the ocean.

A fellow researcher from Australian branch of the family has looked as well, just thought a pair of fresh eyes might find something on Australian side.

As you say, quite a tight timeframe, she must have decided on the way over that Alfred (and Stephen) were not the right choice after all. Returned to her two other children left behind in UK.

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STEER, mainly Surrey, Kent; PINNOCKS/HAINES, Gosport, Hants; BARKER, mainly Broadwater, Sussex; Gosport, Hampshire; LAVERSUCH, Micheldever, Hampshire; WESTALL, London, Reading, Berks; HYDE, Croydon, Surrey; BRIGDEN, Hadlow, Kent and London; TUTHILL/STEPHENS, London
WILKINSON, Leeds, Yorkshire and Liverpool; WILLIAMSON, Liverpool; BEARE, Yeovil, Somerset; ALLEN, Kent and London; GORST, Liverpool; HOYLE, mainly Leeds, Yorkshire

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Re: Ure Beatrice Ward, left Australia 1922 for London
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 24 May 20 14:41 BST (UK) »
As she was returning home to England it is possible there was no record of her arrival?