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Re: GG grandmother look up request
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 26 May 20 22:37 BST (UK) »
Eliza Lamb father John marriage 1868 to John Noble and in 1871

John Noble 25
Eliza Noble 25 born Winchester
Charlotte Lamb 20 step sister born Ireland
Elizabeth Browning 6 step sister born St Georges Surrey

Elizabeth Browning born Mar 1865 St George has mothers maiden name Lamb

So the right mix of names there but still rather confusing although an Irish birth may explain the lack of English census 1851/1861.

The OP’s previous threads suggest this is the right family, and that descent is through Charlotte Lamb. She married:

1 to ?? Marshall
2 to Alfred Allen, 29 March 1875 Southwark - father John Lamb gunsmith, wits John Noble, Annie Allen

After marriage she gives her birthplace as Winchester c1851. Husband no 2 calls himself Frederick Allen.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: GG grandmother look up request
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 26 May 20 22:37 BST (UK) »
John & Eliza Noble are witnesses to marriage of Charlotte Lamb 25 Jul 1871 father John deceased to Henry William Marshall.

Yes you're right she doesn't put Ireland as birthplace again but can't see a Winchester birth for her.

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Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: GG grandmother look up request
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 26 May 20 22:41 BST (UK) »
John & Eliza Noble are witnesses to marriage of Charlotte Lamb 25 Jul 1871 father John deceased to Henry William Marshall.

They are also looking after her son Henry Wm. Marshall, 8 in 1881 (“adopted son”).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: GG grandmother look up request
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 26 May 20 22:57 BST (UK) »
Thomas Browning is in Southwark & widowed by 1881: 48, bootmaker, b Newington.

He has with him 2 children:

Thomas Browning 18 b Newington
Elizabeth Browning 15 b St George Southwark (deaf & dumb)

RG11/522/119/33
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: GG grandmother look up request
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 27 May 20 00:35 BST (UK) »
Thomas Browning is in Southwark & widowed by 1881: 48, bootmaker, b Newington.

In 1851 he is probably the Ladies Shoemaker with his parents Thomas and Eliza in Southwark.HO107;

Piece: 1563; Folio: 335; Page: 16

She Married John Lamb 1842 and Thomas Browning 1862 after John passed away

The banns were read in 1862 for the marriage to Thomas BROWNING but it doesn't look like the marriage took place.

Where do you see evidence of Charlotte being born in Winchester?

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Re: GG grandmother look up request
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 27 May 20 08:35 BST (UK) »
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He has with him 2 children:

Thomas Browning 18 b Newington
Elizabeth Browning 15 b St George Southwark (deaf & dumb)

Oh so another child, can't see his birth registration at present but I wonder if that was why the marriage banns?  Little Thomas was on the way. 
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Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: GG grandmother look up request
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 27 May 20 11:13 BST (UK) »
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They are also looking after her son Henry Wm. Marshall, 8 in 1881 (“adopted son”).

Sorry who did he belong to? 
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Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: GG grandmother look up request
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 27 May 20 11:28 BST (UK) »
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They are also looking after her son Henry Wm. Marshall, 8 in 1881 (“adopted son”).

Sorry who did he belong to?

I think he must be a son of the first marriage of Charlotte née Lamb.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: GG grandmother look up request
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 27 May 20 11:31 BST (UK) »
It looks as though John Lamb may have died Sep qtr 1857 Winchester aged 36.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)