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Help Please wrong Marriage Cert Lilian Holland
« on: Thursday 28 May 20 14:56 BST (UK) »
Good Afternoon

I ordered what I thought was 2nd Great Grand Aunts Marriage

However it has thrown a spanner in the work. Not the Father I have.

Marriage Cert shows

Edward Henry Turnubll, 24, Bachelor, Miner, Isabella Pit Father Robert Turnbull married
Lillian Holland, 26, Spinster, Isabella Pit, Joseph Holland

I have a Lilian Holland born 1879 to a Ralph Holland and Agness Gregg my 2nd Great Grandparents.

However most of my relatives have Lilitan married to Edward Henry Turnbull this Marriage cert would say that is not the case.

Can anyone please help with this.

Thanks Candis




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Re: Help Please wrong Marriage Cert Lilian Holland
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 May 20 15:05 BST (UK) »
When and where was the marriage, what names witness?
Could this be the bride on the certificate?
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Re: Help Please wrong Marriage Cert Lilian Holland
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 May 20 15:07 BST (UK) »
I presume this is the 1905 marriage in Tynemouth?

I can find a Lilian Holland b.1878 Tankersley, Yorkshire to a Joseph & Keziah Holland.

What were the names of their children?

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Re: Help Please wrong Marriage Cert Lilian Holland
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 May 20 15:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Candis, Off subject but may be of interest to you. My father 93, still with us is the son of Florence Holland,he was brought up at 28, Esplanade, i have a few photos probably taken about 1940 of dad with a couple of his aunts (Ralphs sisters). I am in possession of Florences BC and waiting delivery of her marriage cert to George Grassie, and her DC.
                                                     Michael Holland.


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Re: Help Please wrong Marriage Cert Lilian Holland
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 May 20 15:22 BST (UK) »
Michael

I would love to hear from you.

Please message me.  That would be Florence daughter of Susan Mckenna?

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Re: Help Please wrong Marriage Cert Lilian Holland
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 May 20 15:25 BST (UK) »
I have a Lilian Holland born 1879 to a Ralph Holland and Agness Gregg my 2nd Great Grandparents.

Where are you getting your information?

These are the only children I can see with a father named Ralph in 1891, so her name was Lily, not Lillian.

HOLLAND, WILLIAM  HENRY
Mother's maiden surname: CRAIG     
GRO Reference: 1883  S Quarter in SHEFFIELD  Volume 09C  Page 557

HOLLAND, RALPH
Mother's maiden surname: CREGG     
GRO Reference: 1884  D Quarter in SHEFFIELD  Volume 09C  Page 619

HOLLAND, LILY
Mother's maiden surname: CRAIG     
GRO Reference: 1886  D Quarter in SHEFFIELD  Volume 09C  Page 472

HOLLAND, AGNES
Mother's maiden surname: GREIG     
GRO Reference: 1888  M Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 144

Debra  :)

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Re: Help Please wrong Marriage Cert Lilian Holland
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 28 May 20 15:29 BST (UK) »
I thought by getting the Marriage Certificate it would show me more information

They were marred in the Parish of Horton, Tynemouth.

Witnesses are Ralph Liddle and Keziah Holland.

I have a birth for a Lily Holland 1886 October Sheffield 9c 472

Ralph Holland and Agnes Gregg are my 2x Great grandparents.  They had 4 children

Lily which I took was short for Lilian Holland born 1886
William Henry Holland  I know this branch is correct born 1883
Ralph Holland my Great Grand Father born 1884
Sarah Holland  born and died 1889 Agnes died in childborth

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Re: Help Please wrong Marriage Cert Lilian Holland
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 28 May 20 15:30 BST (UK) »
I have a Lilian Holland born 1879 to a Ralph Holland and Agness Gregg my 2nd Great Grandparents.

Where are you getting your information?

These are the only children I can see with a father named Ralph in 1891, so her name was Lily, not Lillian.

HOLLAND, WILLIAM  HENRY
Mother's maiden surname: CRAIG     
GRO Reference: 1883  S Quarter in SHEFFIELD  Volume 09C  Page 557

HOLLAND, RALPH
Mother's maiden surname: CREGG     
GRO Reference: 1884  D Quarter in SHEFFIELD  Volume 09C  Page 619

HOLLAND, LILY
Mother's maiden surname: CRAIG     
GRO Reference: 1886  D Quarter in SHEFFIELD  Volume 09C  Page 472

HOLLAND, AGNES
Mother's maiden surname: GREIG     
GRO Reference: 1888  M Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 144

Debra  :)

Lily Holland I thought was short for Lilian other relatives have her married to an Edward Turnbull,

I have the marriage Cert For Ralph and Agnes Gregg. Agnes surname was misspelt as either Gregg. Greig, Criag but that is the right family
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Re: Help Please wrong Marriage Cert Lilian Holland
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 May 20 15:41 BST (UK) »
So this is 1891? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HQM4-PN2
& 1901 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSMY-8QW

Yorkshire baptisms:

Lilly Holland  Birth date   01 Sep 1886 Baptism date   03 Nov 1886. Parents Ralph & Agnes
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