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Re: Mission impossible .
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 30 May 20 14:44 BST (UK) »
The Jones.

In 1911 at 86 Everton Brow Liverpool
Married 18 years, 4 children born alive 1 still living. (1893) These details only apply to this marriage, John Lowe Jones had a daughter  from his first marriage , whose mother died shortly after her birth,  this child was brought up by her grandmother and Aunt.

John Lowe Jones 46 b Denbigh,  Denbighshire b 1865
 Scripture reader of the Liverpool Church of England Scripture reading society
Clara Maud Jones 45 b Liverpool nee Hindle.
Charles Arthur Jones son 17 junior clerk  b Liverpool
* Bertie Jones adopted son 7 b Liverpool.

Family letter states that Bertie was brought up by Clara M Jones,  but Minnie was believed to be the sister of John Lowe Jones.
Looking back and trying to find Minnie as a sister isn`t getting me far.
The only one unaccounted for is Jane Elizabeth Jones.
1881  Denbigh
Elizabeth Batten Jones    47 widow retired grocer b Trafford Cheshire
Anne Batten Jones 18 b Denbigh died 1899
John Lowe Jones 16 “ salesman in bootshop
 *Jane Elizabeth Jones 12 “
Emily Batten Jones 9 “  is in Stockport in 1901
Thomas Arthur Jones 4 “

1871   Denbigh
Thomas Batten Jones 40 grocer baker b Denbigh
Elizabeth Jones    38 b Bridge Stafford , Cheshire. (Evans ?)
Annie Batten Jones 8 b Denbigh died 1899
John Lowe Jones 6 “
Amy Jones 4   Died Deaths Jun 1876   JONES  Amy Batten 9 St. Asaph
*Jane Elizabeth Jones    2

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Re: Mission impossible .
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 30 May 20 14:46 BST (UK) »
Minnie Rosier - [Child] of Robert Rosier & Alice
    Born: 22 Jan 1887
    Abode: West Derby
    Occupation: Labourer
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Re: Mission impossible .
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 30 May 20 14:49 BST (UK) »
As I have written earlier, I think that Minnie Rosier‘s child - you have the birth and baptism details was raised by her aunt Clara Maud (Hindle) Jones.
Clara Maud being the sister of Minnie’s  mother Alice. Alice (Hindle) Evans was widowed when she married Robert Rosier.
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« Reply #21 on: Saturday 30 May 20 14:53 BST (UK) »
See my reply 2 - Minnie Rosier is the one I mentioned in that reply - the one who went to Canada & married & died there
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« Reply #22 on: Saturday 30 May 20 14:55 BST (UK) »
Yes Thanks Carole, I used your post as the starting point and mentioned the ‘coincidence’ between Minnie Rosier going to Canada and Minnie, the mother of the child.
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« Reply #23 on: Saturday 30 May 20 15:10 BST (UK) »
Looks like Robert Rosier was also known as John Robert;

Baptism: 25 Aug 1878 St Saviour, Everton, Lancashire
Minnie Rosier Rosier
Parents John Robert Rosier/Alice
Abode: 104 Rishton Street
Fathers Occupation: Bar man


There is a Death Re for this Minnie on FreeBMD 1883 age 5
Occp matches 1877 Marriage Cert on Anc

1891 Census
West Derby, Lancs
John Robert Rosier 41 Head Mar Joiners Labourer born Pakenham, Suffolk
Hellie Rosier   11
Clara Rosier   9
Annie Rosier   7
Louisa Rosier   6
Minnie Rosier   4***

1881 Census
Robt. Rosier   31
Alice Rosier   31
Maude Rosier   6
Minnie Rosier   2
Ellen Rosier   1



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« Reply #24 on: Saturday 30 May 20 15:30 BST (UK) »
Interesting side bit there is a Divorce for Robert/Alice in 1897
John remarried 1899 to Ann Foster (FreeBMD)

Familysearch has a 1920 Canadian Passenger List for them.
Also a 1907 one
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« Reply #25 on: Saturday 30 May 20 15:30 BST (UK) »
This is amazing,  thanks a lot, Bertie didn't know until he was an adult that he was adopted,  it's his son, that I'm trying to help. He will be really pleased if we can work it out. 🙂
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« Reply #26 on: Saturday 30 May 20 15:38 BST (UK) »
Added a bit more to my last posting, maybe after you posted.

Good luck :)
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