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Re: Looking for information on Charles Dickey of Millmount
« Reply #28 on: Monday 15 June 20 09:37 BST (UK) »
possibly had a daughter Dorothy Isabella born Alberta circa 1896
husband possibly remarried
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHVZ-ZBZ

Dorothy's marriage 1925 naming her mother as Clara McCreight
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6LHS-419?i=101&cc=1307718

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Re: Looking for information on Charles Dickey of Millmount
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 16 June 20 11:14 BST (UK) »
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Dorothy's marriage 1925 naming her mother as Clara McCreight
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6LHS-419?i=101&cc=1307718

Thank you for the wealth of info Dathai. I think that I have enough to go on for now regarding Clara *Marcella McCreight (Clara K Dickey's granddaughter.) although some intrigue remains (see below).

http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014910/005014910_00084.pdf confirms that Clara Marcella named Edward Dickey as her beneficiary, and that (gasp) Edward was Clara's husband's solicitor! Clara Marcella was only 21 when she died. Why the solicitor and not the husband?
Also, I'm not sure that this transaction between a 'Charles of Millmount' descendant and a 'Dickeys of Hollybrook' descendant amounts to a clue that there was a familial connection. It could just be coincidental.

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Re: Looking for information on Charles Dickey of Millmount
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 16 June 20 21:37 BST (UK) »
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http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014910/005014910_00084.pdf confirms that Clara Marcella named Edward Dickey as her beneficiary, and that (gasp) Edward was Clara's husband's solicitor! Clara Marcella was only 21 when she died. Why the solicitor and not the husband?
Once you need to read more carefully. The Will Book says 'administration' (no Will) and thus Clara Marcella did not name Edward, or anyone else, as beneficiary.
Since Clara Marcella died in Canada (was her husband there also?) it was a perfectly sensible thing for her husband to appoint an Irish solicitor to deal with things here.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/123138963/clara-marcella-fraser
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Re: Looking for information on Charles Dickey of Millmount
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 17 June 20 00:30 BST (UK) »
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Once you need to read more carefully. The Will Book says 'administration' (no Will) and thus Clara Marcella did not name Edward, or anyone else, as beneficiary.
Since Clara Marcella died in Canada (was her husband there also?) it was a perfectly sensible thing for her husband to appoint an Irish solicitor to deal with things here.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/123138963/clara-marcella-fraser
Thanks. I agree, language is important. I need more experience in the contextual interpretation.

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Re: Looking for information on Charles Dickey of Millmount
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 17 June 20 02:37 BST (UK) »
I'll just mention another link between Charles Dickey of Mill mount and the Hollybrook Dickeys;
Charles's daughter Clara left all her assets to Edward O'Rourke Dickey (which would be her cousin and grandson of Adam Dickey Snr). The plot thickens.

Just happened to notice this comment. Have you seen Clara's Will or are you going by extract in Will Book? If the latter then it's more likely that either he was granted probate of her estate (possibly she named him as an executor) or that she left no Will and he was appointed Administrator. If a Will he would have to carry out her instructions or if Administration (no Will or no valid Will) then he would have to sort out the estate according to law.
Just recognising that you (Aghadowey) were trying to tell me something similar weeks ago  :-[
I'll get better at this...

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Re: Looking for information on Charles Dickey of Millmount
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 17 June 20 04:45 BST (UK) »
OK - returning to my original post question...

Is Charles Dickey of Millmount (CoM) (1761 - 1827) related by blood to the Hollybrook Dickeys, in particular to Adam Dickey Snr (d. 1806)

In that first post I posited some tantalizing clues... some admittedly tenuous, eg...

* the fact that a grandson of Adam Snr (Edward Dickey) was nominated to administer the will of a descendant of Com (Clara M McCreight) I now consider to be a very weak link between the two families. Possibly a 6 degrees of separation coincidence.

I'd like to focus on another fact; that Charles was a co-executor of Adam Snr's will. The only indication I have of this is from a newspaper public notice (which for copy-write reasons I cannot post here)

Dissolution of Cotton Spinning Partnership (1810)
19 February 1810
Randalstown, Antrim
Belfast Commercial Chronicle

The notice ends

"Jas & Chas Dickey
Exts late Adam Dickey"

Exts = Presumably  'Executors'.

The late Adam Dickey died 4 MARCH 1806 • Hollybrook, Randalstown. I've had no luck finding any will records with PRONI (via Pre-1858 Name-search) and National Archives will calendars only go back to 1858.
I'd like to corroborate that Charles was Adam Snr's executor. I know in itself it doesn't confirm  a familial link between the two men.

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Re: Looking for information on Charles Dickey of Millmount
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 11 February 21 10:33 GMT (UK) »
This post can be tied in with the earlier post on Macaulay - Dickey.

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Re: Looking for information on Charles Dickey of Millmount
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 04 August 21 15:44 BST (UK) »
Jon,

Here’s a link to a marriage settlement in the Irish Register of Deeds, dated 1789, which mentions Adam Dickey of Hollybrook, plus some of his relatives. You might find it helpful.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-R93Z-7?i=462&cat=185720
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